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I just find it fascinating that I can go through my life and see things like this: "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], som
by VoodooJuJu 4y ago
I just find it fascinating that I can go through my life and see things like this: "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], something something, billions and billions of dollars". And these companies and the people who run them probably have a non-trivial impact on my life, if not directly than indirectly.
It's just fascinating.
- glandium 4y agoI find it fascinating when I see "[Company I haven't heard of for so long that it might as well have died] acquired for [surprisingly large amount of money]"
- curiousgal 4y agoAnyone who has worked in a large company/bank knows who they are.
- Krasnol 4y agoWorked at a F500 company. Never heard of those.
- timc3 4y agoDoesn't exactly qualify you for knowing about IT software.
- disordinary 4y agoYou would have definitely used Citrix products, but unless you were in IT you might not have known they were Citrix.
- scarface74 4y agoI’ve heard of shops that had all developers use Citrix. But mostly I’ve seen it the context of CSR types being forced to use it so they wouldn’t have access to a computer.
- p1esk 4y agoYou’ve never heard of Citrix? How old are you?
- Eduard 4y agoI find it fascinating you went through your life so far without knowing about citrix.
- paulgb 4y agoAs a former Citrix user, I’m a little jealous.
- JohnJamesRambo 4y agoThis is the proper response haha. I'd pay $16.5B to never use it again.
- sharpy 4y agoHaha.. As much as I disliked it, if someone offered me that much money to use it, sure, I would do so with a grin.
- harha 4y agoThe two worst things about going to work are Citrix and the coffee. WFH only fixes one of them.
- Melatonic 4y agoImagine how bad Citrix is as an end user of it. Now imagine having to be the one that sets all that up and maintains it. And has to deal with their support. Citrix Cloud is also hilariously bad
- quickthrower2 4y agoThrow some crystal reports and a “coffee bag” (as in like the tea bag) for good measure and a dash of Sharepoint and DCOM. Now we are talking. DAO recordsets too (no not DAO as in Ethereum!)
- jonhohle 4y ago
- disordinary 4y agoCitrix are pretty ubiquitous in the corporate space. Not as big a deal as they were ten or 15 years ago, but still a huge company that powers a lot of businesses.
- dheera 4y agoI've heard of the name, I kind of just assumed they made orange juice. Tibco is that British supermarket? Kinda makes sense. Oh well, on with my day.
- ncpa-cpl 4y ago> Tibco is that British supermarket? I'm not British, so it also took me a while to realize that Tibco wasn't Tesco.
- tanghall09 4y agoTesco is a Tibco customer. https://www.tibco.com/blog/2019/11/06/tesco-bank-and-postnl-discuss-their-journey-to-the-cloud-the-pitfalls-challenges-and-benefits/ https://www.tibco.com/blog/2019/11/06/tesco-bank-and-postnl-...
- guidedlight 4y agoCitrix originally licensed the technology for the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) to Microsoft. RDP was a pared back version of Citrix, and the license terms left Citrix free to sell a with a more fully-featured virtualised desktop product running on top of Windows Server.
- Thorentis 4y agoOh wow I had no idea about this. Always thought that RDP was something MS developed and Citrix was a more of an RDP alternative with better centralised management features, OEM integration, etc.
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- rad_gruchalski 4y agoI find it fascinating that you haven't heard of Tibco and Citrix.
- blibble 4y agobe thankful, both of them produce awful, awful software the citrix garbage I have to use to log into work is like Windows 95, it regularly corrupts its own install (on a machine only used for that) and of course the uninstaller doesn't clean up everything, so you have to download a separate program to clean that up and the less said about tibco rendezvous the better
- rejectfinite 4y agoCitrix Workspace? The client? Very stable for me and Citrix VDI is pretty amazing on low bandwidth.
- noir_lord 4y agoTibco is responsible for Jaspersoft. Jaspersoft is both insanely powerful and will make you want to kill the authors and then yourself. There isn’t really anything else that does what it does though and you can take that statement both ways. I really hate Jaspersoft but unless you work in a certain kind of enterprise environment you can go an entire career without running into it.
- scarface74 4y agoI haven’t thought about JasperSoft since 2009. I didn’t know it was still a thing,
- noir_lord 4y agoWas as of 2019 when I left that job and never had to touch that monstrosity again.
- cpitman 4y agoDon't worry, it's super extensible! All you have to is write a java class with the right interface, modify a massive spring xml file, and inject your class at the one right place to make everything work! Hope you didn't want documentation on the class interface though. I'm sure you can figure it out from context...
- bombcar 4y agoEgads this sounds like Minecraft modding without forge or fabric.
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- pimlottc 4y agoThe world is vast, and the tech world is no different.
- whydoyoucare 4y agoWow! I am surprised - I thought Xen hypervisor was a household name at least within the software industry. Looks like not! Haha.
- mooreds 4y agoThe world is a really big place. For example, when Okta bought Auth0 last year, that was titanic for my employer (we're in their space). But it barely made a ripple to anyone outside of the auth space. People still confuse Auth0 with OAuth when I give talks! I think about it in other ways too. Look around you. Wherever you are, unless you are in the wilderness, there are 1000s of companies that worked to bring the built environment to you. Whether that be a picture frame, an envelope, a laundry basket, whatever. It's humbling.
- csomar 4y agoI find the Auth0 acquisition to be more impressive. Many people (even non-tech) know about Citrix because of Windows. Almost no one outside of tech (and many people inside tech too) knows anything about auth0. Yet, we have a company that was acquired for 6.5 billions of dollars.
- osigurdson 4y agoThe combined market cap of the S&P 500 is 30.5 trillion. The companies everyone knows about probably account for about ~10T. The remaining 20T represents a long tail of unknown companies worth a few 10s of billions.
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- mooreds 4y agoIf you are into learning more about this, I found this article fascinating: https://strategyofsecurity.com/okta-auth0-q2-2021-results/ https://strategyofsecurity.com/okta-auth0-q2-2021-results/ It also points to the Okta investor presentations and call transcripts, which are fascinating. The latest one has this tidbit: "It's like there's a customer identity cloud, and that's Auth0, and there's a workforce identity cloud, which is both for employees and for your extended workforce, partners and suppliers and things that are kind of workforce like, and those are the platforms in the product suites we go to market with." https://investor.okta.com/static-files/b52f68c6-0979-4c49-9e10-5ec15ee95a09 https://investor.okta.com/static-files/b52f68c6-0979-4c49-9e...
- xtracto 4y agoBack in the 90s or early 2000s Citrix had amazing technology.
- xeromal 4y agoIf you're only in startups, that would make sense but citrix is big in the corporate world. I worked for a subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway for a few years out of college and our who setup depended on citrix. Keeping it vague, we allowed people to bid for allocations of space on transportation infrastructure. When a huge company wanted to spend millions to buy some space, they'd download our client which was actually just a citrix portal that tunneled to desktop software running on our servers. My company was a billion dollar company so you may have never heard of them, but citrix was absolutely crucial to our cash flow.
- tinco 4y agoI heard of TIBCO in two ways, the first time was from my housemates friend who was visiting. We were still poor college students and this friend was making fat stacks as a consultant for TIBCO. Apparently their business model is selling their system for cheap, throwing in as much support and help as they can integrating it deep in their clients business processes. And once that's succesful they raise the prices each year to exorbitant amounts. The other way I learned at a meetup that was hosted by the ING (a large international bank). An architect was trying to recruit me to come work at ING and explained their fancy architecture to me. Right at the heart of it was a TIBCO message passing layer. It made me cringe. I don't know why they couldn't have just picked rabbitmq or something, probably similar reasons to why some companies pick oracle over postgres. I don't think it's worth it, but I'm not an enterprise architect.
- DrBazza 4y ago> "[Company I've never heard of] and [Another company I've never heard of], I'm going to guess you're under 30? Amongst the many things Tibco sold was Rendezvous, which was extremely popular in the banks for running trading systems back in... the 90s and early 00s. Then of course, multi-core chips came along and sending messages to other processes on single cores over the network, versus, other processes in the same bit of silicon via memory instead. And Citrix - another extremely popular bit of software for connecting remotely to Windows boxes (amongst other things). Again in the 90s and early 00s. There seems to be so many of these zombie companies now. Embarcadero is another one that always springs to mind. Produces nothing new, just shambles around on existing revenue streams.
- animal531 4y agoI worked with Tibco's message queue back in the 00's somewhere...but to be honest I though they had gone under. Citrix should be more well known, but if you've never worked in a Windows environment then perhaps not.
- ptsneves 4y agoJMS righ?
- tanghall09 4y agoTibco has pulsar, kafka and jms for mainstream streaming & queueing use cases. And FTL for low latency messaging. Not exactly on TechCrunch, but there is a lot of it out there in enterprises. Citrix also has a major load balancer/“ADC” business - formerly Netscaler. Had to look it up recently for a k8s ingress controller.
- greggsy 4y agoCitrix is alive and well in large organisations
- mring33621 4y agoMy current, HUGE employer bases its whole remote/local workstation tech on Citrix products. At a previous, also HUGE employer, we used Tibco Rendezvous for FX trade messaging and it was a great product, in that it was performant and never seemed to fail.
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