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Besides the unremovable junk they fill on the homepage, now this. Uninstalled and will be moving to Brave
by princevegeta89 4y ago
Besides the unremovable junk they fill on the homepage, now this.
Uninstalled and will be moving to Brave
- mc32 4y agoAlso Epic.
- w0m 4y agoI'm all for pushing for more privacy/etc; but is Brave what we want to advocate for as an alternative? They did some pretty heinous link jacking relatively recently. I'm not sure FF/(/chromium) have been caught doing anything worse than that yet.
- drews64 4y agoFirefox with uBlock Origin and HTTPS only works beautifully with Pocket disabled. Only thing I have to pull out Chrome for is corporate intranet.
- Datagenerator 4y agoOr the privacy focused Librewolf (fork of Firefox)
- darig 4y ago
- smoldesu 4y agoUsing a browser that monetizes itself in any way seems like a slippery slope to me. I'd rather use Ungoogled Chromium/Bromite or even LibreWolf if it came down to it. Saying "that's it, I'm moving to Brave!" is basically declaring that you're moving your data from Microsoft(1) to Microsoft(2).
- ramesh31 4y ago> Using a browser that monetizes itself in any way seems like a slippery slope to me. I'd rather use Ungoogled Chromium/Bromite or even LibreWolf if it came down to it. The problem with this approach is that it’s impossible to get a safe binary that isn’t downloaded from “libfree.cxcc.gg” or whatever. The other option being to build from source, which is an absolute nightmare for Chromium.
- smoldesu 4y agoAll of those browsers have signatures available if you question the integrity of your binary. Otherwise this argument isn't any different for the likes of Brave or Chrome even.
- ramesh31 4y ago> All of those browsers have signatures available if you question the integrity of your binary Signatures available from whom? The point being that a web browser is a very special case of software that has to absolutely 100% trustworthy from a reputable commercial entity (that is, someone that can be sued). The only other thing with that level of trust is your operating system.
- rswail 4y agoSo my Linux kernel running the majority of the infrastructure of the company I work for is untrustworthy? Do you not trust kernel.org? Or the GPG signatures of the commits? What about Mozilla? As for "someone that can be sued", have you read any of the EULAs of the commercial entities that you think are "reputable" and "100% trustworthy"? You can't sue them. Similarly, do you trust all of the CAs that have certificates in your OS or browser trust store?
- colechristensen 4y agoI still have a CD of Netscape Navigator Gold I purchased in a box in a store… long ago enough that was a thing. Those were the days.
- forgotmypw17 4y agoI still test and validate my websites with Netscape 2.x and up. Any Browser can be a reality.
- colechristensen 4y agoIf I had my billion dollars I would fund a modern intentionally crippled hypertext browser with hard limits on programmability and style complexity.
- Thiez 4y agoA shame that you would waste your money on a browser that nobody would use.
- alcover 4y agoI would. I already use FF mainly under a locked-down profile for mere reading. (I use another profile for madatory interactive sites like banking and stuff). Others like me would. And resource-constrained devices. An eco-system of low-tech sites could emerge with a label signaling them as simple and virtuous.
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- _emacsomancer_ 4y agoHow is Brave Microsoft(2)?
- smoldesu 4y agoThey're both for-profit businesses that will consistently put the user experience behind profitability. Open-source, libre browsers will not. I'm sure people said the same thing when Edge was in beta. "How is Microsoft Chrome(2)?"
- _emacsomancer_ 4y agoBut Brave is also an open-source, libre browser. And the Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit company. (And I think Edge is worse than being Chrome(2).)
- LtWorf 4y agowell google is removing adblockers from chrome to better monetise the web…
- fragmede 4y ago> Using a browser that monetizes itself in any way seems like a slippery slope to me. Is that a practical sustainable long-term business practice though? Firefox was only able to be free because Google was paying Mozilla. Browsers are some complex software and software developers wanna get paid. I know that the in's and outs of history of browser software has conditioned us to expecting browsers for free but that doesn't reflect the reality of developing the software.
- easygenes 4y agoFirefox, with its full complement of full-time developers, could stay alive with a tiny fraction of what Mozilla earns in a year. Most of Mozilla's work is tangential to Firefox at best. Surely there's space in the browser market for a model akin more to how Wikipedia operates.
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago> Surely there's space in the browser market for a model akin more to how Wikipedia operates. Donations by corporations, and edited by powerhungry users (ryulong) and bots?
- staticassertion 4y agoOK so you do want a business model, it's just a terrible one.
- smoldesu 4y agoSounds better than a black-hole cryptocurrency where the devs steal 30% of your transaction 'because they can'
- GekkePrutser 4y agoThis is part of the problem. Mozilla is diverging too much into dead ends. Instead of focusing on what they do best, Firefox.
- account42 4y ago
- GekkePrutser 4y agoI don't think any way is unacceptable. I'd be totally happy to pay for the software for example. It's all the sneaky crypto / adware / tracking stuff that I have a problem with.
- Entinel 4y agoThis line of thinking is why Chrome owns most of the internet. No one else can hope to compete because they just get screeched down.
- autoexec 4y agoFirefox is pretty nice once you beat it into submission. I'd put my money there before Brave.
- kdtsh 4y agoHonestly I find the defaults plus uBlock Origin and Multi-Account Containers to be fine, no bearing required.
- autoexec 4y agoI must have a hundred things that I change on every install. At a bare minimum I'd be disabling pocket, prefetch, and search from the address bar for privacy reasons and then disabling service workers, webgl, and wasm for security reasons.
- account42 4y agoOTOH, Firefox funding depends almost entirely on Google so they are unlikely to do anything that upsets Google too much.
- smoldesu 4y agoChrome owns the internet because people like Brave don't develop their own browser engine.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y agoCompanies like google keep expanding the effort needed to write a browser engine to ensure everyone uses their spyware.
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- mhardcastle 4y agoI'm very glad you mentioned the homepage spam. It's increasingly difficult (and valuable) to live without information overload these days; Edge's forced "news" spam has pushed me away as well.
- SimoneSleek 4y agoblocking msn.com via hosts will give you a blank new tab page in Edge, only including an Edge background image, and a search bar leading to your chosen search engine.
- int_19h 4y agoYou can disable all that from Edge itself, at least on the desktop. When on the new tab page, there's a "Page settings" icon in the top right. If you click on that, there's a bunch of options there regarding what should be present on the page; the bottom-most item is "Content", and if you set it to "Content off", it all goes away.
- KyleK 4y agotrue, but the default new tab page sets cookies and connects to MS all the time. When blocking msn.com, it loads local resources only.
- princevegeta89 4y agoWhat is shocking is the content is so low quality it's appalling it came from a big, respected company as Microsoft. A lot of the posts are often clickbaits, and there are ads carelessly interspersed between the posts all over the page. I know it makes a lot of money for Microsoft but the fact they chose to keep the quality so low really looks bad.
- ekianjo 4y ago"Respected"? Since when is Microsoft respected?
- cheschire 4y agothe only unremovable thing that bothers me is the stupid bing points thing that i dont care about. It doesnt encourage me to use bing, it just makes me question how they continue to manage to swipe my queries enough to increase that score.
- ectopod 4y agoEdge is a pretty good local pdf reader so I added a firewall rule to stop it connecting to the internet.
- gotoeleven 4y agoOh you sweet summer child.
- _V_ 4y agoDamn you, I just spit out my drink! :-D