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> So, I’m saying “we’re all children”. If you want to complain about adults playing games and wearing bright colours, you also need to complain about adults usi

> So, I’m saying “we’re all children”. If you want to complain about adults playing games and wearing bright colours, you also need to complain about adults using armies to take resources and businesses blocking others out of markets. I feel the same, but, this is one of those all or nothing things, and the irony is that our own barbaric origins are holding us back from ‘evolving’ so to speak. We have armies and nuclear armaments because, when it boils down; our species is full of agitated hungry animals, liars and cheats. You’d need to organize a whole species around a single-world order if you ever wanted to stop wars and denuclearize.

hoseja 4y ago
"using armies to take resources and businesses blocking others out of markets" is literally "evolving". Natural selection, baby. It's not pretty. Unipolarity isn't the only solution but it's the most apparent one, and also the most terrifyingly totalitarian one.
- raydiatian 4y ago
  I mean I can really only imagine two broad categories for “solutions” 1) Someone demonstrates a bigger stick. At this point a bigger stick is effective counter-nukes, or perhaps the presence of an alien civilization. 2) What you call unipolarity, although I think both are unipolarity. Mass behavioral transcendence towards a higher form of morality. Maybe achieved via BCI, or improving standard of living, or subtle coercions by AI, or looming threat of climate change prompting transformative cooperative efforts. The latter was omitted for brevity, due to its unlikelihood. Of course it’s not binary, there’s a bit of each in the other.
- trinsic2 4y ago
  Yeah that's a grim way to look at the world. And there are many who are engaging in that mindset. There will come a time when taking from others because of the unwillingness to be a creative member of society is seen as a curable mental illness.
  - hoseja 4y ago
    Yes, at about the same time the society will have finished taking all of agency from it's individual members, forming beautiful eusocial hivemind.

hoseja 4y ago

"using armies to take resources and businesses blocking others out of markets" is literally "evolving". Natural selection, baby. It's not pretty. Unipolarity isn't the only solution but it's the most apparent one, and also the most terrifyingly totalitarian one.

raydiatian 4y ago
I mean I can really only imagine two broad categories for “solutions” 1) Someone demonstrates a bigger stick. At this point a bigger stick is effective counter-nukes, or perhaps the presence of an alien civilization. 2) What you call unipolarity, although I think both are unipolarity. Mass behavioral transcendence towards a higher form of morality. Maybe achieved via BCI, or improving standard of living, or subtle coercions by AI, or looming threat of climate change prompting transformative cooperative efforts. The latter was omitted for brevity, due to its unlikelihood. Of course it’s not binary, there’s a bit of each in the other.
trinsic2 4y ago
Yeah that's a grim way to look at the world. And there are many who are engaging in that mindset. There will come a time when taking from others because of the unwillingness to be a creative member of society is seen as a curable mental illness.
- hoseja 4y ago
  Yes, at about the same time the society will have finished taking all of agency from it's individual members, forming beautiful eusocial hivemind.