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> never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease. The problem is that it’s becoming unavoidable. Right now the only oven with a good

> never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease. The problem is that it’s becoming unavoidable. Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating.

Schroedingersat 4y ago
Then the consumer reports rating is obviously wrong.
walrus01 4y ago
I will build a fire pit with cinder blocks in my back yard and roast hunks of meat using a sharpened stick before I put my oven on a wifi network.
InitialLastName 4y ago
Or find a reviewer who values the same things you do? I have to think there's an acceptable oven on the market that doesn't have a Wi-Fi requirement. I bought a GE Adora oven a few years ago and it has been exactly as perfectly uncomplicated an oven as I've ever wanted; it was even easy to replace the handle when I broke it off in a moment of poor judgement. It looks like those are still available, and don't require any Wi-Fi access.
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account-5 4y ago
What for? Genuine question, what reason does an oven need an internet connection for? If I bought an oven and it required an internet connection I'd be getting my money back.
- 127 4y ago
  In order for the company to extract more money out of you, of course.
cbozeman 4y ago
> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating. I guarantee you Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking do not require Wi-Fi connections.
- Alex3917 4y ago
  > Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking Sure, but they get worse reviews, and I can get 8 years of insurance on the appliance to cover if it gets hacked for less than the cost difference.
Melatonic 4y ago
Or buy a commercial oven. Or used
solraph 4y ago
> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection Is this some weird American only thing? I keep hearing on HN how everything requires wifi now, but in Australia, I couldn't find any major oven that had wifi at all, and only 14 out of 504 fridges on a popular appliances site (Appliances Online) had wifi at all. I'd be interested to know what the options look like in other countries.

Schroedingersat 4y ago

Then the consumer reports rating is obviously wrong.

walrus01 4y ago

I will build a fire pit with cinder blocks in my back yard and roast hunks of meat using a sharpened stick before I put my oven on a wifi network.

InitialLastName 4y ago

Or find a reviewer who values the same things you do? I have to think there's an acceptable oven on the market that doesn't have a Wi-Fi requirement. I bought a GE Adora oven a few years ago and it has been exactly as perfectly uncomplicated an oven as I've ever wanted; it was even easy to replace the handle when I broke it off in a moment of poor judgement. It looks like those are still available, and don't require any Wi-Fi access.

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account-5 4y ago

What for? Genuine question, what reason does an oven need an internet connection for? If I bought an oven and it required an internet connection I'd be getting my money back.

127 4y ago
In order for the company to extract more money out of you, of course.

cbozeman 4y ago

> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating. I guarantee you Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking do not require Wi-Fi connections.

Alex3917 4y ago
> Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking Sure, but they get worse reviews, and I can get 8 years of insurance on the appliance to cover if it gets hacked for less than the cost difference.

Melatonic 4y ago

Or buy a commercial oven. Or used

solraph 4y ago

> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection Is this some weird American only thing? I keep hearing on HN how everything requires wifi now, but in Australia, I couldn't find any major oven that had wifi at all, and only 14 out of 504 fridges on a popular appliances site (Appliances Online) had wifi at all. I'd be interested to know what the options look like in other countries.