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never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease. I realize there are ads on the homescreen of an xbox series x, ps4 pro, ps5, etc but
by walrus01 4y ago
never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease.
I realize there are ads on the homescreen of an xbox series x, ps4 pro, ps5, etc but I would much rather deal with those than whatever shoddy operating system TV manufacturers put on their thing.
I have a thousand times more confidence that microsoft and sony will keep their OSes patched and up to date (they have a strong financial/self-interest incentive to do so, for anti piracy reasons) than the junk running on a TV.
- OrangeMonkey 4y agoBought a samsung and a roku tv. I don't know which one it was - but, for one of them, I refused to install internet. And it had a red light that flashed like every 30-60 seconds. I looked up why? "Its the no internet" light and it couldnt be disabled. I had to cover it up with a sticky note on my nice tv until I finally gave up. Anti consumer patterns.
- Domenic_S 4y agoGet a roll of gaff tape, I block out a great deal of blinkenlights that way, it's great stuff.
- wollsmoth 4y agoMy vizio runs so much better without a connection. It used to semi-regularly get into a state where the screen was blank even though the tv was on. Because it was a smart tv, powering it off wouldn't actually power cycle it. I had to pull the power cord to reset it. Now I use a chromecast plugged into it for streaming. before that I used a ps4.
- PreachSoup 4y agoMy previous Vizio tv botched chroma functionality for pc monitor for 2 years before getting it fixed. It doesn't allow downgrade. Never connect to wifi again.
- jrib 4y agomy parents' TCL TV would blink a white light at the bottom of the front bezel unless we gave it access to the wifi... :(
- etrautmann 4y agoTime for electrical tape or desoldering an LED…
- rewgs 4y agoI assume connecting it to an adhoc network that doesn’t have internet access wouldn’t work?
- genewitch 4y agoMy TCL will blink that if the WAP is up but the internet is down, but it takes a while for it to start blinking. I just put the TV on the slowest network i have, and i rarely use the TV anyhow. 90% of media consumption is on a 4K PC monitor, and 9.5% of the remaining is on a 720p projector. I wish that 1080p or 2k projectors were cheaper, but at ~$350-$500 a 720p projector is a really hard price/feature point to beat. On the wall i painted with Silver Screen Behr paint, the pixels are about 1-2mm.
- kingrazor 4y agoOne thing I hate is when things like input switching are part of the TV OS. It can turn something that should be fast and easy into something slow and glitchy.
- Domenic_S 4y agoI want to skywrite this comment above Samsung's offices for a year. I bought their brand-new-tech Quantum Dot OLED. I LOVE the screen, it's outperformed my every expectation... EXCEPT... switching inputs is a nightmare! How is that possible?!?! I still have no idea how to get to an input select screen. I use my Harmony remote to direct-select an input (impossible with the stock remote) or wait for the TV to say, "no signal, choose another input" I'm completely flabbergasted at how ridiculous it is to do.
- cassianoleal 4y ago> things like input switching are part of the TV OS As opposed to what? On my LG there's a button for input switching that does only that. It's part of the OS but I don't see how it could be more convenient.
- kingrazor 4y agoSomething like input switching should operate below the OS.
- cassianoleal 4y agoWhat am I missing? What's wrong with input switching being made at the OS level?
- kingrazor 4y agoThe speed and reliability of the OS. I should be able to change inputs even if the TV OS is unresponsive, which is not uncommon on some smart TVs. If the smart TVs you're using are fast enough and reliable enough that you aren't having issues then I don't think there would be any benefit to you.
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago+1. I bought a samsung premiere projector, and it's a very good product. But the first thing it did was prompting me for the wifi, and hell no. It's offline, plugged to a real computer that has internet access and I skip the projector home page as quickly as I can to get to the laptop mirrored displays.
- Alex3917 4y ago> never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease. The problem is that it’s becoming unavoidable. Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating.
- Schroedingersat 4y agoThen the consumer reports rating is obviously wrong.
- walrus01 4y agoI will build a fire pit with cinder blocks in my back yard and roast hunks of meat using a sharpened stick before I put my oven on a wifi network.
- InitialLastName 4y agoOr find a reviewer who values the same things you do? I have to think there's an acceptable oven on the market that doesn't have a Wi-Fi requirement. I bought a GE Adora oven a few years ago and it has been exactly as perfectly uncomplicated an oven as I've ever wanted; it was even easy to replace the handle when I broke it off in a moment of poor judgement. It looks like those are still available, and don't require any Wi-Fi access.
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- account-5 4y agoWhat for? Genuine question, what reason does an oven need an internet connection for? If I bought an oven and it required an internet connection I'd be getting my money back.
- 127 4y agoIn order for the company to extract more money out of you, of course.
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- Kerrick 4y agoOn the contrary, I absolutely love the WebOS that came on my TV, and I use it (connected to the internet) regularly. I've often found myself watching YouTube and even browsing NPR and HN (using a TV remote as the only input device) on the TV rather than using my laptop, desktop, or even my iPhone. It's also open source [0] and you can develop your own software for it [1] without needing to submit that software to their app store [2] (though you can do that too [3]). [0]: https://www.webosose.org https://www.webosose.org [1]: https://webostv.developer.lge.com https://webostv.developer.lge.com [2]: https://webostv.developer.lge.com/develop/getting-started/developer-mode-app https://webostv.developer.lge.com/develop/getting-started/de... [3]: https://webostv.developer.lge.com/distribute/app-approval-process https://webostv.developer.lge.com/distribute/app-approval-pr...
- RajT88 4y agoI'll be shopping for a new big TV in the near future, and I am an HP TouchPad owner as well. How difficult has nerfing the ads been on a WebOS TV? That is the only thing keeping me away from an LG -- I want a TV which I don't have to fight.
- Kerrick 4y agoMost (all?) of the ads can be disabled in the settings. The built-in web browser even includes ad-blocking and cookie blocking options. General -> AI Service -> AI Recommendation: turn off "Who.Where.What?" and "Content Recommendations" and "Network-Based Personalization Recommendations" General -> Home Settings: turn off "Home Promotion" General -> Additional Settings: turn off "Live Plus" and turn on "Do Not Sell My Personal InformationA General -> Additional Settings -> Advertisement: turn on "Limit AD Tracking"
- cgrealy 4y agoI have an LG TV with WebOS. It's connected to the internet and I use it to watch Netflix, Prime, etc. There's a "recommended" strip on the home page that shows various movies/tv shows from streaming services, and that's pretty much it as far as ads go.
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- robswc 4y agoThere's ads on consoles now? Wow... I feel like people would not have tolerated that 10 years ago. I remember reading memes about how you have to "pledge" to the Mountain Dew or else you can't turn your console on... and that was comically exaggerated but we're certainly getting close...