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This argument is dumb because Estonia and Latvia are already on their border. There's nothing NATO can do with Ukraine they couldn't already do with the Baltic

This argument is dumb because Estonia and Latvia are already on their border. There's nothing NATO can do with Ukraine they couldn't already do with the Baltics.

seba_dos1 4y ago
It's more than dumb. Russia's current actions are actually only now making NATO presence in the region tangibly stronger (see: Sweden, Finland). This wouldn't happen without Putin invading Ukraine.
monocasa 4y ago
The difference is whether or not you're on the open plains leading to Moscow. The eastern edge of the Carpathian Mountains has always been a hard line for Russia, going back to the middle ages, because once the plain to Moscow opens up, it's nearly indefensible. That edge is in eastern Ukraine. It's a very 19th/20th century view on 21st century geopolitics, but hey, that's modern Russia for you.
the_third_wave 4y ago
And Lithuania, bordering Kaliningrad which is a - highly militarised - Russian enclave bordering Poland and Lithuania.