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The cost of TVs is now heavily subsidized by the data-mining, though, whereas I don't see much evidence that's the case for Apple products, whatever their other
by olivierestsage 4y ago
The cost of TVs is now heavily subsidized by the data-mining, though, whereas I don't see much evidence that's the case for Apple products, whatever their other problems (if such evidence does exist, I'd be interested to see it).
- fsflover 4y ago> whereas I don't see much evidence that's the case for Apple products https://www.barrons.com/articles/apples-advertising-business-is-bigger-than-you-think-it-could-get-bigger-still-51628004419 https://www.barrons.com/articles/apples-advertising-business...
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- spideymans 4y agoI don’t see what the issue is, unless Apple is violating my privacy to serve their ads. (I’m not a fan of ads, but don’t see how this is necessarily a privacy issue)
- fsflover 4y agoAds that rely on tracking is a problem for privacy, not all ads.
- philjohn 4y agoWell there's the disingenuous way in which they present the choice, defaulted to opt in with flowery language, versus the popup third party developers have presented to their users. There's also the "app store health card" which the cynic in me would say is designed to scare people away from "competing" apps, because none of the Apple equivalents have a health card. Additionally there's no nuance - both iMessage and Twitter ask for location data - but only if you want to share your location. End result? People looking at Twitter in the App Store surmise "well, they must be tracking my location at all times!".
- danaris 4y ago> none of the Apple equivalents have a health card. Apple's apps on the App Store most certainly do have health cards. Not sure what you've been looking at...?
- philjohn 4y agoBuilt in apps - iMessage. And yes, that does seem to be in the app store now, however, there's a lot there that seems to be missing - access to photos for example isn't listed in the health card, neither is microphone access - both of which are core features of the app.
- danaris 4y agoAre they? It looks like the way it's implemented, access to photos comes through a Photos extension to iMessage (I think I recall these being called "iMessage apps"?), rather than it being inherent to the app. And options for the microphone similarly seem to belong either to the extensions, or to the system—which handles microphone input as a substitute for typing. It's possible you're right, and I'm missing something, but that's how it appears to me.
- philjohn 4y agoIs that available to other apps? If not - then this just looks like they're skirting around things they foist on third party developers to make themselves look squeaky clean.
- amelius 4y ago> I don’t see what the issue is, unless Apple is violating my privacy to serve their ads. Google also claims they don't violate our privacy by hiding our data from third party advertisers. They still collect massive amounts of data ...