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In 2022, I'm looking at the plethora of browsers available for MacOS, and sticking with Safari. Chrome would be my second choice, and in fact I have it installe

In 2022, I'm looking at the plethora of browsers available for MacOS, and sticking with Safari. Chrome would be my second choice, and in fact I have it installed, but only use it once a month or so on average. Nothing from Mozilla or Brave or anyone else is even installed. You can say the complexity is required to compete, but I stick with Safari because it is simple, and fast, and doesn't gorge itself on system memory.

smoldesu 4y ago
Go for it. Safari (rather WebKit) is an option on all sorts of platforms, but nobody uses it where it isn't preinstalled. Safari is free to be as simple as it wants, but that doesn't excuse them for blocking browser innovation on iOS.
- ezfe 4y ago
  Well, it isn't even available anywhere it isn't preinstalled. lol.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  It's been some number of months, so I thought, hey, I'll take this opportunity to see what I'm missing out on with Firefox. And I'll even start with whatever Firefox says for the comparison. Fortunately, there's a handy page for that[0]. Under "Security and Privacy," it looks like both do fine. Firefox pledges to "Block cryptomining scripts," which... I have Ghostery installed, so I think I'm probably safe there. Other than that there are some sister-products I could install, and Firefox is cross-platform, but I have MacOS and iOS, so I guess no win there. Under "Utility," I'm missing "Autoplay blocking," except... no, that's in Safari as well. I can "Allow All Auto-Play," "Stop Media with Sound," or "Never Auto-Play," and set that per website, too. Maybe that's just out-of-date. (Ah yes, comparison is based on Safari 14, I am running 15.5) For the rest, Firefox seems to begrudgingly give a nod to Safari here, suggesting extensions to try to make up for functionality Firefox lacks natively. But it does suggest Firefox's screenshots feature, which... MacOS has handy keyboard shortcuts for screenshots already, and lots of options about where and how to save the results, so I'm not sure why I'd want to use something different for Firefox than I use for everything else. Next up is "Portability," but since I'm already in the Apple ecosystem for both work and home, this does nothing for me. So nope, still nothing that suggests I should try again. It's funny, the thing I remember most from when I last used Firefox a couple of years ago was "Multi-Account Containers," but I see now that was an add-on, not native to the browser proper. In any case, I'm glad Firefox exists, because more choice is always good! I mean, would I now have tab groups in Safari if some other company hadn't done something similar first? So carry on, Firefox, Brave, etc. Meanwhile, I'll stick with Safari to help ensure that at least one browser survives against Chrome. 0. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/safari/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/safar...

smoldesu 4y ago

Go for it. Safari (rather WebKit) is an option on all sorts of platforms, but nobody uses it where it isn't preinstalled. Safari is free to be as simple as it wants, but that doesn't excuse them for blocking browser innovation on iOS.

ezfe 4y ago
Well, it isn't even available anywhere it isn't preinstalled. lol.
pwinnski 4y ago
It's been some number of months, so I thought, hey, I'll take this opportunity to see what I'm missing out on with Firefox. And I'll even start with whatever Firefox says for the comparison. Fortunately, there's a handy page for that[0]. Under "Security and Privacy," it looks like both do fine. Firefox pledges to "Block cryptomining scripts," which... I have Ghostery installed, so I think I'm probably safe there. Other than that there are some sister-products I could install, and Firefox is cross-platform, but I have MacOS and iOS, so I guess no win there. Under "Utility," I'm missing "Autoplay blocking," except... no, that's in Safari as well. I can "Allow All Auto-Play," "Stop Media with Sound," or "Never Auto-Play," and set that per website, too. Maybe that's just out-of-date. (Ah yes, comparison is based on Safari 14, I am running 15.5) For the rest, Firefox seems to begrudgingly give a nod to Safari here, suggesting extensions to try to make up for functionality Firefox lacks natively. But it does suggest Firefox's screenshots feature, which... MacOS has handy keyboard shortcuts for screenshots already, and lots of options about where and how to save the results, so I'm not sure why I'd want to use something different for Firefox than I use for everything else. Next up is "Portability," but since I'm already in the Apple ecosystem for both work and home, this does nothing for me. So nope, still nothing that suggests I should try again. It's funny, the thing I remember most from when I last used Firefox a couple of years ago was "Multi-Account Containers," but I see now that was an add-on, not native to the browser proper. In any case, I'm glad Firefox exists, because more choice is always good! I mean, would I now have tab groups in Safari if some other company hadn't done something similar first? So carry on, Firefox, Brave, etc. Meanwhile, I'll stick with Safari to help ensure that at least one browser survives against Chrome. 0. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/safari/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/safar...