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For example…? Because I see children in cages, wanton grift, federal aid based on favors and similar to trump personally.

by olliej 4y ago

GuardianCaveman 4y ago
keyword "trump presidency had good times" so yeah him and his family and inner circle had GREAT times.
xkbarkar 4y ago
If you look at every single precidency pretty awful things were done. Fake child immunization setup to get Usama during Obama administration. Has caused an unveleivable amount of harm to children. Not in cages, just no linger vaccinated for fear of US pursuit. Yell bad man Trump all you want. He was never the problem, he was a symptom of what is really going on. Same with Swedish and now Italian elections. Get all the social media upvotes for adhering to the woke and bow to twitter as much as you want. This is what is actually going on. I blame super shitty journalism also for this. Thats just a personal irk I have for how oblivious and grossly overconfident and incompetent the media actually is
- notafraudster 4y ago
  I think most people are going to find a moral equivalence drawn between "locked up children in cages" and "tricked Osama Bin Laden's relatives into taking a blood test" pretty hollow, even if an argument can be made that the latter led to a complex downstream set of externalities.
  - dapf 4y ago
    The "locking down children in cages" was already being done during the Obama period.
    - _8j50 4y ago
      Separating them from their mothers? Nope
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    >I think most people are going to find a moral equivalence drawn between "locked up children in cages" and "tricked Osama Bin Laden's relatives into taking a blood test" pretty hollow He's not talking about OBL's blood relatives, he's talking about all the children in Pakistan who aren't vaccinated now because the US's actions caused them to distrust vaccines and those who provide them.
AlexTWithBeard 4y ago
Just off the top of my head: - made hospitals disclose healthcare prices - cleaned up asylum rules - banned Chinese equipment from 5G networks - enacted criminal justice reform And the most important: he's the only recent president who didn't start a new war. That alone would be enough to write his name in golden letters.
- Toxygene 4y ago
  > he's the only recent president who didn't start a new war Not for a lack of trying. The assassination of Qasem Soleimani was authorized by Trump and led to several direct attacks on each other and only stopped after Iran accidentally shot down a commercial passenger plane originating from their own country.
  - _8j50 4y ago
    He is the first republican in a long time that didn't start a war only because there were already two undrerway and his generals stopped him from starting wars. He was a DC outsider so he didn't know the war starting protocol I guess?
    - AlexTWithBeard 4y ago
      Would be good if our next president doesn't know the war starting protocol as well.
      - _8j50 4y ago
        Not if there is a good reason to wage a war. Everyone complains about wars but every war since vietnam had widespread public support at the time it was started.
        midoridensha 4y ago
        That's not a good reason to start a war. The Iraq War (2003, not the Gulf War of the 90s) had widespread public support because the CIA fabricated evidence of WMDs to create that support.

For example…? Because I see children in cages, wanton grift, federal aid based on favors and similar to trump personally.

by olliej 4y ago

For example…? Because I see children in cages, wanton grift, federal aid based on favors and similar to trump personally.

GuardianCaveman 4y ago

keyword "trump presidency had good times" so yeah him and his family and inner circle had GREAT times.

xkbarkar 4y ago

If you look at every single precidency pretty awful things were done. Fake child immunization setup to get Usama during Obama administration. Has caused an unveleivable amount of harm to children. Not in cages, just no linger vaccinated for fear of US pursuit. Yell bad man Trump all you want. He was never the problem, he was a symptom of what is really going on. Same with Swedish and now Italian elections. Get all the social media upvotes for adhering to the woke and bow to twitter as much as you want. This is what is actually going on. I blame super shitty journalism also for this. Thats just a personal irk I have for how oblivious and grossly overconfident and incompetent the media actually is

notafraudster 4y ago
I think most people are going to find a moral equivalence drawn between "locked up children in cages" and "tricked Osama Bin Laden's relatives into taking a blood test" pretty hollow, even if an argument can be made that the latter led to a complex downstream set of externalities.
- dapf 4y ago
  The "locking down children in cages" was already being done during the Obama period.
  - _8j50 4y ago
    Separating them from their mothers? Nope
- midoridensha 4y ago
  >I think most people are going to find a moral equivalence drawn between "locked up children in cages" and "tricked Osama Bin Laden's relatives into taking a blood test" pretty hollow He's not talking about OBL's blood relatives, he's talking about all the children in Pakistan who aren't vaccinated now because the US's actions caused them to distrust vaccines and those who provide them.

AlexTWithBeard 4y ago

Just off the top of my head: - made hospitals disclose healthcare prices - cleaned up asylum rules - banned Chinese equipment from 5G networks - enacted criminal justice reform And the most important: he's the only recent president who didn't start a new war. That alone would be enough to write his name in golden letters.

Toxygene 4y ago
> he's the only recent president who didn't start a new war Not for a lack of trying. The assassination of Qasem Soleimani was authorized by Trump and led to several direct attacks on each other and only stopped after Iran accidentally shot down a commercial passenger plane originating from their own country.
- _8j50 4y ago
  He is the first republican in a long time that didn't start a war only because there were already two undrerway and his generals stopped him from starting wars. He was a DC outsider so he didn't know the war starting protocol I guess?
  - AlexTWithBeard 4y ago
    Would be good if our next president doesn't know the war starting protocol as well.
    - _8j50 4y ago
      Not if there is a good reason to wage a war. Everyone complains about wars but every war since vietnam had widespread public support at the time it was started.
      - midoridensha 4y ago
        That's not a good reason to start a war. The Iraq War (2003, not the Gulf War of the 90s) had widespread public support because the CIA fabricated evidence of WMDs to create that support.