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One aspect of climate change is overpopulation. These issues may be more related than you think.

gruez 4y ago
That might be true in principle but practically speaking whatever population increase caused by abortion bans in the US is going to be dwarfed by the population boom happening in africa/asia.
- zeckalpha 4y ago
  Soon: abortion wars. The US could invade any nation without an abortion ban to liberate fetuses.
jokethrowaway 4y ago
It's ok, hookup culture already fixed that, western societies are below replacement rate. We need to worry about disappearing instead.
- anemoiac 4y ago
  You think that “hookup culture” is the reason for the “West’s” low birthrates? This is a well-studied topic and I haven’t heard anyone else making that claim…
  - yucky 4y ago
    Why wouldn't it be related? Women would rather not have kids with random hookups so if they're all having random hookups with everyone on Tinder/Bumble/Whatever then when exactly would they be having kids? Of course it's related. Also, look at the levels of estrogen-related compounds in our drinking water due to all of the birth control and think of what effect that might have on male fertility, which we know is the lowest in recorded history...
    - staticman2 4y ago
      "Contrary to popular belief, birth control pills account for less than 1 percent of the estrogens found in the nation's drinking water" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.h... As for "hookup culture" that sounds like something largely made up by conservative pundents and you are describing it as a real thing.
      - rhodorhoades 4y ago
        Wtf?… this is the most alarming statistic I’ve ever heard. Why is their estrogen in our drinking water, why does birth control put estrogen in our drinking water and where the fuck is the other 99% coming from?
      - yucky 4y ago
        >Source: American Chemical Society Yikes. Meanwhile, nobody has been able to replicate those results in the 10+ years since then, I wonder why. >As for "hookup culture" that sounds like something largely made up by conservative pundents and you are describing it as a real thing. Many liberals don't think glorifying hedonism is a good thing. I guess I'm open to hear the argument though, so what is the advantage for society to promote hook-up culture? What good comes from that vs the alternative?
        staticman2 4y ago
        I noticed you just claimed nobody could replicate the results but provided no evidence for your claim that either 1) estrogen in the water is in unhealthy levels due to birth control or 2) nobody could replicate the results. I think it's pretty clear you don't care about scientific evidence but think women having consensual, nonreproductive sex is icky, so very much want it to be true that birth control is poison, and don't really care about the truth level of what you are posting as long as it feels true. As for your other point, I already said there's no such thing as hookup culture, that's just an outlandish stereotype you want to box people into.
nervlord 4y ago
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t0bia_s 4y ago
If you think that people are cancer of planet, you probably dont know how many great unhabited places on Eearth we have, ie in Russia. Overpopulation is narattion for/from pathological politics we have.

That might be true in principle but practically speaking whatever population increase caused by abortion bans in the US is going to be dwarfed by the population boom happening in africa/asia.

zeckalpha 4y ago
Soon: abortion wars. The US could invade any nation without an abortion ban to liberate fetuses.

jokethrowaway 4y ago

It's ok, hookup culture already fixed that, western societies are below replacement rate. We need to worry about disappearing instead.

anemoiac 4y ago
You think that “hookup culture” is the reason for the “West’s” low birthrates? This is a well-studied topic and I haven’t heard anyone else making that claim…
- yucky 4y ago
  Why wouldn't it be related? Women would rather not have kids with random hookups so if they're all having random hookups with everyone on Tinder/Bumble/Whatever then when exactly would they be having kids? Of course it's related. Also, look at the levels of estrogen-related compounds in our drinking water due to all of the birth control and think of what effect that might have on male fertility, which we know is the lowest in recorded history...
  - staticman2 4y ago
    "Contrary to popular belief, birth control pills account for less than 1 percent of the estrogens found in the nation's drinking water" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.h... As for "hookup culture" that sounds like something largely made up by conservative pundents and you are describing it as a real thing.
    - rhodorhoades 4y ago
      Wtf?… this is the most alarming statistic I’ve ever heard. Why is their estrogen in our drinking water, why does birth control put estrogen in our drinking water and where the fuck is the other 99% coming from?
    - yucky 4y ago
      >Source: American Chemical Society Yikes. Meanwhile, nobody has been able to replicate those results in the 10+ years since then, I wonder why. >As for "hookup culture" that sounds like something largely made up by conservative pundents and you are describing it as a real thing. Many liberals don't think glorifying hedonism is a good thing. I guess I'm open to hear the argument though, so what is the advantage for society to promote hook-up culture? What good comes from that vs the alternative?
      - staticman2 4y ago
        I noticed you just claimed nobody could replicate the results but provided no evidence for your claim that either 1) estrogen in the water is in unhealthy levels due to birth control or 2) nobody could replicate the results. I think it's pretty clear you don't care about scientific evidence but think women having consensual, nonreproductive sex is icky, so very much want it to be true that birth control is poison, and don't really care about the truth level of what you are posting as long as it feels true. As for your other point, I already said there's no such thing as hookup culture, that's just an outlandish stereotype you want to box people into.

nervlord 4y ago

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t0bia_s 4y ago

If you think that people are cancer of planet, you probably dont know how many great unhabited places on Eearth we have, ie in Russia. Overpopulation is narattion for/from pathological politics we have.