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Presumably this happened because of how rarely the OP boots Windows. It was likely feverishly applying months of security hotpatches to itself in the background

by derefr 4y ago

Presumably this happened because of how rarely the OP boots Windows. It was likely feverishly applying months of security hotpatches to itself in the background, trying to outpace the user clicking on an email attachment. People who use Windows primarily, and leave it running and idle when they’re not using it (even just asleep is fine, for a laptop), don’t have this problem; Windows does this stuff incrementally, and mostly when you’re not using it.

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ghusto 4y ago
I think he's mostly ranting, and his conclusions on the death of Windows are conclusions on that ranting -- i.e. nonsense -- however! Saying the reason Windows does this is X, doesn't excuse anything. It's insane that this is how it works.
- kichimi 4y ago
  Not really, the old way was that updating was an event and a task within itself, and your mom doesn't want to sit there waiting for updates to complete to write a letter or browse facebook. Silent, backgrounded incremental updates are the better fit for 99% of users. Full disclosure: I use linux as my daily driver and don't have a windows installation.
  - ghusto 4y ago
    But it's not the old way, at least not for for MacOS (and last time I checked, Linux, which you use?). Granted, the MacOS version upgrades are indeed _a thing_, and pretty annoying, but that problem still exists even with the incremental upgrades Windows does. There's just no way around certain types of upgrade that touch core components.
miken123 4y ago
> even just asleep is fine, for a laptop Except that Windows never-ever-ever reliably sleeps. There is always something, some program, some driver, whatever, waking it up from sleep.
- number6 4y ago
  Linux isn't better in this regard.
  - the_third_wave 4y ago
    When my devices - mostly ThinkPads of different vintage running Debian plus a 27" iMac running the same - sleep they don't wake up until I want them to so yes, "Linux" is better in this regard. If your device wakes up when it should sleep I'd check if Wake-on-Lan is enabled.
  - orwin 4y ago
    It is now though. I agree that 5 years ago it wasn't ideal, but now the hardware support linux way better than it used to do, and on my dual-boot, i have 1/3rd more battery life with linux when i'm using it. For the "never really idle" part, i've found a script on github that deactivate and uninstall most of the bloatware windows come with, and it's now way better, so i cannot judge.
- kyriakos 4y ago
  I find hibernation to be the best approach. Zero battery drain, my laptop boots in 5 seconds (or negligible time to be concerned about). Just set it up to hibernate when the lid is closed.

by derefr 4y ago

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ghusto 4y ago

I think he's mostly ranting, and his conclusions on the death of Windows are conclusions on that ranting -- i.e. nonsense -- however! Saying the reason Windows does this is X, doesn't excuse anything. It's insane that this is how it works.

kichimi 4y ago
Not really, the old way was that updating was an event and a task within itself, and your mom doesn't want to sit there waiting for updates to complete to write a letter or browse facebook. Silent, backgrounded incremental updates are the better fit for 99% of users. Full disclosure: I use linux as my daily driver and don't have a windows installation.
- ghusto 4y ago
  But it's not the old way, at least not for for MacOS (and last time I checked, Linux, which you use?). Granted, the MacOS version upgrades are indeed _a thing_, and pretty annoying, but that problem still exists even with the incremental upgrades Windows does. There's just no way around certain types of upgrade that touch core components.

miken123 4y ago

> even just asleep is fine, for a laptop Except that Windows never-ever-ever reliably sleeps. There is always something, some program, some driver, whatever, waking it up from sleep.

number6 4y ago
Linux isn't better in this regard.
- the_third_wave 4y ago
  When my devices - mostly ThinkPads of different vintage running Debian plus a 27" iMac running the same - sleep they don't wake up until I want them to so yes, "Linux" is better in this regard. If your device wakes up when it should sleep I'd check if Wake-on-Lan is enabled.
- orwin 4y ago
  It is now though. I agree that 5 years ago it wasn't ideal, but now the hardware support linux way better than it used to do, and on my dual-boot, i have 1/3rd more battery life with linux when i'm using it. For the "never really idle" part, i've found a script on github that deactivate and uninstall most of the bloatware windows come with, and it's now way better, so i cannot judge.
kyriakos 4y ago
I find hibernation to be the best approach. Zero battery drain, my laptop boots in 5 seconds (or negligible time to be concerned about). Just set it up to hibernate when the lid is closed.