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What if it was not the copied signature of the old master, but a new one with a similar style and placed in a similar spot on the painting, but with the name of

What if it was not the copied signature of the old master, but a new one with a similar style and placed in a similar spot on the painting, but with the name of the student instead and looking blurry/a bit different? Because that's what's happening here, and that doesn't sound quite like fraud. Another scenario, what if i create a painting of a river by hand in acrylic and also draw a getty-watermark-looking thing on top using acrylic? As for why, i would put it there as an integral part of the piece, to allude to the fact of how corporations got their hands over even the purest things that have nothing to do with them, with the fake watermark in acrylic symbolizing it. You can make up any other reason, this is just the one i thought of as i was writing this. It wont look exactly like the real getty watermark, it will be acrylic and drawn by hand, so pretty uneven with colors being off and way less detailed. Doesn't feel like fraud to me.

joe_the_user 4y ago
My argument isn't really whether this is morally fraud. Maybe the device is really being "creative" or maybe it's copying. The question is whether the things supposed originality can be defend in court. What if i create a painting of a river by hand in acrylic and also draw a getty-watermark-looking thing on top using acrylic? As for why, i would put it there as an integral part of the piece, to allude to the fact of how corporations got their hands over even the purest things that have nothing to do with them, with the fake watermark in acrylic symbolizing it. A human artist might well do that and make that defense in court. For all anyone knows, some GPT-3-derived-thing might go through such a thought process also (though it seems unlikely). However, the GPT-3-derived-thing can't testify in court concerning it's intent and that produces problems. And it's difficult for anyone to make this claim for it. Edit: Also, if instead of a single work (of parody), you produced a series of your own stock photos, used the Getty Watermark and invited people to use them for stock photo purposes, then your use of the copyrighted Getty Watermark would no longer fall under the parody exception for fair use.

joe_the_user 4y ago

My argument isn't really whether this is morally fraud. Maybe the device is really being "creative" or maybe it's copying. The question is whether the things supposed originality can be defend in court. What if i create a painting of a river by hand in acrylic and also draw a getty-watermark-looking thing on top using acrylic? As for why, i would put it there as an integral part of the piece, to allude to the fact of how corporations got their hands over even the purest things that have nothing to do with them, with the fake watermark in acrylic symbolizing it. A human artist might well do that and make that defense in court. For all anyone knows, some GPT-3-derived-thing might go through such a thought process also (though it seems unlikely). However, the GPT-3-derived-thing can't testify in court concerning it's intent and that produces problems. And it's difficult for anyone to make this claim for it. Edit: Also, if instead of a single work (of parody), you produced a series of your own stock photos, used the Getty Watermark and invited people to use them for stock photo purposes, then your use of the copyrighted Getty Watermark would no longer fall under the parody exception for fair use.