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What can explain the case where there's more air moving out the exhaust side than being sucked up the intake side?
by kqr 4y ago
What can explain the case where there's more air moving out the exhaust side than being sucked up the intake side?
- danuker 4y agoCoandă effects might drag air from somewhere else, not just from the intake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect Edit: I see the tester used an anemometer, which measures just the air moving THROUGH the anemometer. If the exhaust is smaller than the intake, then air will move at a higher speed through the exhaust. Thus the anemometer will show a higher reading.
- lupire 4y agoIt has to come from somewhere, by conservation of mass.
- danuker 4y agoIndeed. I was thinking it's from some other holes of a non-airtight case. But actually, the mass conservation happens through air around the anemometer (i.e. air not getting measured, but still moving).
- Scoundreller 4y agoÉvaporation and gas formation of the electrolytic capacitor goop comes to mind :)
- mannykannot 4y agoThe airflow into a fan is in response to the low pressure created by the blades, an so will approach over a wide angle. The outflow, however, is initially strongly biased to a direction perpendicular to the plane of the blades (together with some swirl imparted by the blades.) Because of this, the anemometer shown is likely to intercept a larger fraction of outflow than the inflow. Maybe the swirl will also have an effect, depending on whether the fan blades and anemometer blades rotate in the same or opposite directions.
- kqr 4y agoHm, but does this explain why some fans show higher inflow than outflow?
- mannykannot 4y agoTry this with a desk fan: turn it on and stand a meter away on the outflow side - you will feel the flow. Stand a meter away on the inflow side, and the flow is much weaker and probably undetectable. That's because it is flowing in over a whole hemisphere upstream of the fan, but flowing out in essentially one direction. Here, as with the anemometer, you are not measuring the total mass flow; what's being measured is the velocity of part of that flow, and you are intercepting more of that flow on the outflow side. If you were to measure and integrate the velocity over two hemispheres centered on the fan and divided by the plane of the blades, with a barrier in that plane to prevent recirculation, and calculate the mass flow from that (you can assume constant density as the pressure change is tiny), you will find that the total outflow downstream equals the total inflow upstream.† † To actually do this experiment, you will need a sensitive anemometer which measures over a small area and does not unduly interfere with the flow, such as a hot-wire probe type. There may be additional difficulties in averaging turbulence. https://electricalworkbook.com/hot-wire-anemometer/ https://electricalworkbook.com/hot-wire-anemometer/