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Assuming there's a choice, I'm not familiar with Chinese elections, then yes. Why not vote? What is the advantage of that?
by themitigating 4y ago
Assuming there's a choice, I'm not familiar with Chinese elections, then yes.
Why not vote? What is the advantage of that?
- RegnisGnaw 4y agoOf course there is a choice. You get "Person A" from the CCP or "Person B" from the CCP. I mean even in the DPRK, you can vote for whoever you want. Its what happens afterwards..
- themitigating 4y agoSo you are claiming in the DPRK voting is rigged? Do you have proof of this?
- bonzini 4y agoIn DPRK there is only one choice on the ballot that you can optionally cross out to disapprove. That doesn't happen often or at all; I suppose they'd know who does it based on the time it takes to vote.
- RegnisGnaw 4y agoThe polling station worker watches you, there is no secrecy.
- themitigating 4y agoThen it's not an election and my statement doesn't apply This is like saying 'yeah but what if the car turns out to be electric" if I told you to change your oil every 5k miles
- whimsicalism 4y agoPeople might view it as giving legitimacy to a process.
- themitigating 4y agoThe process of voting is legitimate. Does giving legitimacy to voting accomplish anytime? What about protesting the system by not voting, does that do anything?
- whimsicalism 4y ago> The process of voting is legitimate. What do you mean by this? If I (a dictator) were to hold an election but require 90% approval to unseat me, that would be a "legitimate" process because it includes voting? Do you not understand what I am saying? > What about protesting the system by not voting, does that do anything? Arguably yes. Afghanistan's state legitimacy collapsed as basically fewer than 10% of people voted in any of it's elections and then the government fell.
- themitigating 4y agoWhat event in Afghanistan are you referring to and can you prove it was because of a lack of legitimacy due to lack of voter participation?
- whimsicalism 4y agoThe fall of the government in Kabul. I'm not saying this is the single causal event, but lower than 10% voting definitely contributed to a lack of legitimacy of the central govt leading to its fall.
- themitigating 4y agoDo you proof that it was a cause? Counter is that participation in European country elections is also low, though probably higher than 10 percent, but that didn't cause them to fall
- whimsicalism 4y ago
- djbebs 4y agoVoting provides legitimacy to the winner of the election and to the election process itself. If you disagree with both of those things, voting has no positive and results only in negatives.
- themitigating 4y agoIf it has no positives what are the negatives?
- function_seven 4y agoProviding legitimacy to parties or institutions that you reject. Simpsons did it: "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos"
- themitigating 4y agoProvides legitmacy by whom and how is this used? Counter In europe many elections have extremely low turnout but governments are considered legitimate
- trinsic2 4y agoIts been my understanding that political parties have interests that are completely separate from the will of the people, even though campaigns say otherwise, and no amount of change is going to fix that problem. Also any changes that come from those institutions follow the real progress that gets made by common people. "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men. When the majority shall at length vote for the abolition of slavery, it will be because they are indifferent to slavery, or because there is but little slavery left to be abolished by their vote. They will then be the only slaves. Only his vote can hasten the abolition of slavery who asserts his own freedom by his vote." - Henry David Thoreau