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This relates to a strong hunch that consciousness is tightly coupled to whatever compression is as an irreducible entity. Memory <> Compression <> Language <>

This relates to a strong hunch that consciousness is tightly coupled to whatever compression is as an irreducible entity. Memory <> Compression <> Language <> Signal Strength <> Harmonics and Ratios

eru 4y ago
I see the relation between compression and consciousness. But what do you mean by irreducible entity, and how does it relate to the two?
- nl 4y ago
  I don't understand much of what the OP is saying. But I do like the Stephen Wolfram idea of consciousness being the way a computationally bounded observer develops a coherent view of a branching universe. This is related to compression because it a (lossy!) reduction in information. I understand that Wolfram is controversial, but the information-transmission-centric view of reality he works with makes a lot of intuitive sense to me. https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciousness-some-new-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/ https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciou...
- pyinstallwoes 4y ago
  By irreducible entity, as the yet undefined entity that sits at the nexus of mathematics, philosophy, computation, logic (consciousness). It’s not a well defined ontology yet. So whatever it is, at its irreducible size pinpointing it as a thing in which gives rise to such other things.
  - eru 4y ago
    What kind of reductions would be disallowed?
mjan22640 4y ago
Consciousness is IMHO being avare of being avare. The mystic specialty of it is IMHO a mental illusion, like the Penrose ladder optical illusion.
ilaksh 4y ago
"Consciousness" is a pretty useless word without being very carefully defined, because people use it to mean a variety of different things. And often in the most ambiguous way possible such as this comment. But also often some related but very specific and different things such as the reply that assumes it means only "self-awareness". To me, the main purpose of the word is to prove the insufficiency of language and how imprecise most people's thinking is.
- pyinstallwoes 4y ago
  The beauty of compression is the paradox of specificy and simultaneous ambiguity.

This relates to a strong hunch that consciousness is tightly coupled to whatever compression is as an irreducible entity. Memory <> Compression <> Language <> Signal Strength <> Harmonics and Ratios

eru 4y ago

I see the relation between compression and consciousness. But what do you mean by irreducible entity, and how does it relate to the two?

nl 4y ago
I don't understand much of what the OP is saying. But I do like the Stephen Wolfram idea of consciousness being the way a computationally bounded observer develops a coherent view of a branching universe. This is related to compression because it a (lossy!) reduction in information. I understand that Wolfram is controversial, but the information-transmission-centric view of reality he works with makes a lot of intuitive sense to me. https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciousness-some-new-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/ https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/03/what-is-consciou...
pyinstallwoes 4y ago
By irreducible entity, as the yet undefined entity that sits at the nexus of mathematics, philosophy, computation, logic (consciousness). It’s not a well defined ontology yet. So whatever it is, at its irreducible size pinpointing it as a thing in which gives rise to such other things.
- eru 4y ago
  What kind of reductions would be disallowed?

mjan22640 4y ago

Consciousness is IMHO being avare of being avare. The mystic specialty of it is IMHO a mental illusion, like the Penrose ladder optical illusion.

ilaksh 4y ago

"Consciousness" is a pretty useless word without being very carefully defined, because people use it to mean a variety of different things. And often in the most ambiguous way possible such as this comment. But also often some related but very specific and different things such as the reply that assumes it means only "self-awareness". To me, the main purpose of the word is to prove the insufficiency of language and how imprecise most people's thinking is.

pyinstallwoes 4y ago
The beauty of compression is the paradox of specificy and simultaneous ambiguity.