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Yes, and the end of the world they predicted if text-to-image technology got into the hands of bigots or if celebrities/politicians were deep-faked into odd sit

Yes, and the end of the world they predicted if text-to-image technology got into the hands of bigots or if celebrities/politicians were deep-faked into odd situations, etc ... just has not materialized. I really think (and always thought) that the whole ethical reason for withholding access was bullshit! Same with generative text from prompts.

TigeriusKirk 4y ago
There are some people making images that almost anyone would find offensive. But I haven't noticed those images having any impact at all, at least not yet.
yoyohello13 4y ago
I think those ethical concerns are very real. It's just inevitable that this technology will be used for nefarious purposes. But withholding access to the tech, can't do anything to avoid the inevitable.
- XorNot 4y ago
  Well there's also the problem that if technology is possible but kept proprietary, then it is not expected that it will be used. This increases its power. A world where deep fakes are well known and accessible technology undermines their nefarious utility (the opposite of course also being a problem: actual video evidence now potentially being undermined).
serf 4y ago
> ... just has not materialized. I don't think we comfortably know that yet. For one, software takes a bit to diffuse into the public usage, secondly if you were the victim of blackmail or some other such criminal activity that was perpetrated with the use of such a system you wouldn't raise your hand immediately -- you'd get clear of the problem -- and then afterwards depending on how embarassing the situation is you'd speak out publicly. Many victims will never identify the methods used, and most will never speak out publicly. In other words, systems like this could be being used to harass people and it'd take a bit of time before 'the public' was ever very aware of it being an ongoing problem.
- coding123 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure we haven't seen the deepfakes we are expecting yet. Give it a couple months for grainy photos of Clinton in the basement of a pizza parlor with handcuffs in the background.
  - tomByrer 4y ago
    Or actual photos of Clinton at a certain island that are real but called deep fakes? I thought of a Scifi series years ago where puppeteers could force politicians say anything they wanted just by the threat of a deep fake.
  - enlyth 4y ago
    Don't worry, these AI models can't draw faces and hands properly yet, I'd give it some more time

TigeriusKirk 4y ago

There are some people making images that almost anyone would find offensive. But I haven't noticed those images having any impact at all, at least not yet.

yoyohello13 4y ago

I think those ethical concerns are very real. It's just inevitable that this technology will be used for nefarious purposes. But withholding access to the tech, can't do anything to avoid the inevitable.

XorNot 4y ago
Well there's also the problem that if technology is possible but kept proprietary, then it is not expected that it will be used. This increases its power. A world where deep fakes are well known and accessible technology undermines their nefarious utility (the opposite of course also being a problem: actual video evidence now potentially being undermined).

serf 4y ago

> ... just has not materialized. I don't think we comfortably know that yet. For one, software takes a bit to diffuse into the public usage, secondly if you were the victim of blackmail or some other such criminal activity that was perpetrated with the use of such a system you wouldn't raise your hand immediately -- you'd get clear of the problem -- and then afterwards depending on how embarassing the situation is you'd speak out publicly. Many victims will never identify the methods used, and most will never speak out publicly. In other words, systems like this could be being used to harass people and it'd take a bit of time before 'the public' was ever very aware of it being an ongoing problem.

coding123 4y ago
I'm pretty sure we haven't seen the deepfakes we are expecting yet. Give it a couple months for grainy photos of Clinton in the basement of a pizza parlor with handcuffs in the background.
- tomByrer 4y ago
  Or actual photos of Clinton at a certain island that are real but called deep fakes? I thought of a Scifi series years ago where puppeteers could force politicians say anything they wanted just by the threat of a deep fake.
- enlyth 4y ago
  Don't worry, these AI models can't draw faces and hands properly yet, I'd give it some more time