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Lol, yeah, better to have the whole world speculate a f'ing teenager is cheating through vibrating anal beads. Yeah, that's totally classy.

patmcc 4y ago
What could Magnus say that would satisfy you, exactly? "Niemann is definitely not cheating" would be silly. "I think he's cheating" would be terrible. "Let's allow the governing bodies to investigate" would be the status quo. What kind of statement should he make?
- neaden 4y ago
  "I think Hans is cheating and want FIDE to investigate him and will not play him until they do."
  - bluecalm 4y ago
    Let's assume he thinks that (unlikely as FIDE isn't a very trustworthy or respected institution). Before saying so he asks his lawyer if it might get him on legal trouble. The answer is "yes it will". Magnus thus stays silent.
marcusverus 4y ago
Neiman is a 19 year old man. Stop infantilizing him.
- jprd 4y ago
  Honestly, this is a surprising statement. I imagine it comes from someone younger, and who has been through much strife? A human brain isn't fully developed at 19, just because we send 19y olds off to kill in wars doesn't mean they are adults and it certainly doesn't indicate infantilizing a young adult by allowing them growth. If we're talking about a 39y old man, then you can start proselytizing and comparing. Most of mid-life -> older is validating the "youth is wasted on the young" quote and turning into an old fart. A fudge-ton of humans never had this chance, that doesn't mean we can't grow and allow for it now where circumstances allow. I find this similar to the student loan forgiveness/free State College conversation in the US. It is almost as ridiculous as "originalism" in interpreting the U.S. Constitution. A document made to be updated at the will of the people, yet we must just adhere to what a 18th century aristocratic male landowner would have thought if presented with the question of <INSERT ANYTHING POST 1789>" Investigate him if there is cause, but not because of Magnus' tweets. Freely admitting to your mistakes and trying to learn from them is something to be encouraged. How people on HN pirated software or did gray-hat stuff when young, and where did it take you?
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- mrguyorama 4y ago
  Neiman is a new young adult, in a completely abnormal situation for normal humans, being harassed by all sorts of people for things that happened in his past, speculation, and wild ass guessing. Maybe taking carlson at his non-word is sufficient to harm this young man for you, but it is not for me.
- tromp 4y ago
  Age nine-teen has teen in it, which makes him a teenager. [1] https://www.quora.com/Is-19-still-a-teenager https://www.quora.com/Is-19-still-a-teenager

patmcc 4y ago

What could Magnus say that would satisfy you, exactly? "Niemann is definitely not cheating" would be silly. "I think he's cheating" would be terrible. "Let's allow the governing bodies to investigate" would be the status quo. What kind of statement should he make?

neaden 4y ago
"I think Hans is cheating and want FIDE to investigate him and will not play him until they do."
- bluecalm 4y ago
  Let's assume he thinks that (unlikely as FIDE isn't a very trustworthy or respected institution). Before saying so he asks his lawyer if it might get him on legal trouble. The answer is "yes it will". Magnus thus stays silent.

marcusverus 4y ago

Neiman is a 19 year old man. Stop infantilizing him.

jprd 4y ago
Honestly, this is a surprising statement. I imagine it comes from someone younger, and who has been through much strife? A human brain isn't fully developed at 19, just because we send 19y olds off to kill in wars doesn't mean they are adults and it certainly doesn't indicate infantilizing a young adult by allowing them growth. If we're talking about a 39y old man, then you can start proselytizing and comparing. Most of mid-life -> older is validating the "youth is wasted on the young" quote and turning into an old fart. A fudge-ton of humans never had this chance, that doesn't mean we can't grow and allow for it now where circumstances allow. I find this similar to the student loan forgiveness/free State College conversation in the US. It is almost as ridiculous as "originalism" in interpreting the U.S. Constitution. A document made to be updated at the will of the people, yet we must just adhere to what a 18th century aristocratic male landowner would have thought if presented with the question of <INSERT ANYTHING POST 1789>" Investigate him if there is cause, but not because of Magnus' tweets. Freely admitting to your mistakes and trying to learn from them is something to be encouraged. How people on HN pirated software or did gray-hat stuff when young, and where did it take you?
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mrguyorama 4y ago
Neiman is a new young adult, in a completely abnormal situation for normal humans, being harassed by all sorts of people for things that happened in his past, speculation, and wild ass guessing. Maybe taking carlson at his non-word is sufficient to harm this young man for you, but it is not for me.
tromp 4y ago
Age nine-teen has teen in it, which makes him a teenager. [1] https://www.quora.com/Is-19-still-a-teenager https://www.quora.com/Is-19-still-a-teenager