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When I upgraded my fully maxed-out 2019 16" mbp from Catalina to Monteray, the every-day performance of my computer took an absolute nose-dive. It's been a comp

When I upgraded my fully maxed-out 2019 16" mbp from Catalina to Monteray, the every-day performance of my computer took an absolute nose-dive. It's been a complete nightmare, and has significantly soured me on Apple. Right now, the biggest lingering issue is that if my laptop is on the integrated gfx card, typing performance is so laggy that it's excruciating to type anything. So far, the only response has been to just disable automatic graphics switching, meaning battery life is reduced by about 3-4x. It's just unbelievable how bad this has become. I spent hours with an Apple senior support engineer (or whatever they are called), and all he could do is go "dang that _is_ bad, I'll file a bug." Yet the problem still persists.

avidphantasm 4y ago
My maxed-out 2019 16" MBP was always a dog. The 2016-2019 Intel MBPs suffered from an inability to cool themselves (esp. with dual external displays) and were just overly complex. I think the combination of the Intel CPU, discrete GPU, and T1/T2 controller just made for an overly complex and crash prone system. Mine had this weird issue where touchpad and keyboard input would periodically experience some kind of deadlock. I could trigger this using the calculator app. Enter 42, +, 23, and press =. The results would not show up until I would move the mouse or tap a key on the keyboard. I traded the 2019 MBP for a 14" M1 Pro as soon as I could and haven't looked back. This machine is great.
- jscheel 4y ago
  Yeah, I think I'll upgrade when the next ones come out, just not looking forward to the massive hit I'm gonna take when reselling this one.
1123581321 4y ago
Hopefully they can fix it. I had that model for work (the i7, though) and it was better for me but it still greatly struggled with heat management with a normal office workload (video call, editor, some documents, browser.) The corollary is that macOS’ increasing reliance on GPU all over the system is really nice on Apple Silicon, where they don’t need to make such a stark trade-off between GPU power and battery, and can scale usage smoothly.

avidphantasm 4y ago

My maxed-out 2019 16" MBP was always a dog. The 2016-2019 Intel MBPs suffered from an inability to cool themselves (esp. with dual external displays) and were just overly complex. I think the combination of the Intel CPU, discrete GPU, and T1/T2 controller just made for an overly complex and crash prone system. Mine had this weird issue where touchpad and keyboard input would periodically experience some kind of deadlock. I could trigger this using the calculator app. Enter 42, +, 23, and press =. The results would not show up until I would move the mouse or tap a key on the keyboard. I traded the 2019 MBP for a 14" M1 Pro as soon as I could and haven't looked back. This machine is great.

jscheel 4y ago
Yeah, I think I'll upgrade when the next ones come out, just not looking forward to the massive hit I'm gonna take when reselling this one.

1123581321 4y ago

Hopefully they can fix it. I had that model for work (the i7, though) and it was better for me but it still greatly struggled with heat management with a normal office workload (video call, editor, some documents, browser.) The corollary is that macOS’ increasing reliance on GPU all over the system is really nice on Apple Silicon, where they don’t need to make such a stark trade-off between GPU power and battery, and can scale usage smoothly.