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Rockstar Games confirms they were hacked by an outside party

217 points by razin 4y ago

sorenjan 4y ago
I don't play multiplayer games, but GTA single player are some of my favorite games. As long as there is a good single player campaign in GTA VI I'll buy it pretty much immediately when it's available for PC, as I'm sure plenty of others will as well. I doubt this leak will affect the sales, although I can understand why the developers would prefer to not have their half finished work leaked like that. According to the thread on gtaforums it was allegedly the same hacker that recently hacked Uber. Will be interesting to read more about this when there's more info out, I assume they have something in common and that more companies are vulnerable.
- afavour 4y ago
  IIRC Uber was hacked via human weakness in multi-factor authentication. It’s actually something a ton of companies are vulnerable to so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see it replicated here.
  - shmde 4y ago
    Yes it was replicated here the same way as the uber hack. Using social engineering.
  - sorenjan 4y ago
    Is this what zero trust is supposed to protect against? It's weird to let everyone have free reign over critical infrastructure and data once you gain access to the network. Are there any network security that uses AI to automatically detect and flag unusual behavior? For example, a regular developer doesn't need to port scan the entire network, the receptionist's computer doesn't need to log in to admin resources, support personnel doesn't need to access source code, etc. This should be possible to flag and let a human verify.
    - goodoldneon 4y ago
      Zero trust doesn’t mean 0 network segmentation. Zero trust is supposed to be the opposite of walled gardens
      - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
        "Zero trust" is a buzzword with no real meaning, IMO.
    - not1ofU 4y ago
      Yes, - the tech is called UBA (user behaviour analytics.. or something) - over time it builds a baseline of what a user does in a typical day/ week/ month as part of their role, and if they deviate from that base pattern then an alert can be triggered on different thresholds - for example, why is a member of support downloading the entire production database (not that they should have access there, but you get my point)
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    That was the initial attack vector. But it looks like there has been a lot of lateral movement in that hack. I don't think a single user account would have had access to that much information and if it did that's part of the reason for the hack too, not just the initial breach method.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  Rockstar Games is coming for you in the sense that the even the map will be on DLCs
  - hoffs 4y ago
    Soooo trueeee
- koheripbal 4y ago
  The story lines have been getting more and more shallow. Simple cooperative heists, killings, theft, etc, with very predictable gang assertion themes. They are investing far more time and effort into "online" - the leaks confirmed this. "Open worlds" lend themselves to shallow micro-stories. Maybe I'm being a grumpy old man, but in video game history, the best games were those that had complex character development, and novel worlds that supported a deep and thoughtful plot - something that would make the player have some emotional investment in. I don't see any evidence of that in recent GTA games.
  - jeffwask 4y ago
    I played the GTA5 campaign twice it was brilliant. RDR2 had a brilliant campaign. I'm not giving up on Rockstar delivering a superlative campaign and multiplayer
    - logicalmonster 4y ago
      Rockstar has a jaw-droppingly great track record, and I can understand giving them the benefit of the doubt and having super high expectations. They're one of the few entities that has earned that respect. However with some of the trends in the gaming industry, as well as the heavier focus on multiplayer and transactions that nickel-and-dime customers, I'd personally temper my expectations about any future titles to avoid disappointment.
      - bobthepanda 4y ago
        In general, pre-ordering isn’t a great idea. Money is worth more now than in the future, and the quality and price of the game does not change significantly between the last day to preorder and the first day reviews drop.
        icecap12 4y ago
        You’re absolutely right, I’m done preordering games. I didn’t do it much anyway, but nowadays it’s just not worth it. The most recent and egregious example that comes to my mind was the latest Battlefield. My goodness was that a turd, and lots of people felt rightfully burned after preordering that game and essentially getting a totally unfinished product.
- 22SAS 4y ago
  >As long as there is a good single player campaign in GTA VI I'll buy it pretty much immediately when it's available Same here. I used to game a lot in high school and college, then I stopped. The only thing that ever gets me to fire up the console again is a new release of GTA and a new release of CoD (provided the story is good and not some futuristic crap). Last time was when the Modern Warfare reboot was released in 2019. The 2nd part is coming this year, so it looks I will be playing it as soon as it is available. Same with GTA VI, although I guess that will be a lot longer from now, given this hack.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  The common denominator is Slack, there is something fishy about Slack, some people might have breached them and are able to join what ever server they want Hence how they managed to download the whole "leaked" content from Slack message history Uber, now Rockstar, if i was wearing my conspiracy theorist hat, i would say it's that secretive group that operate Microsoft, either they want to force them to use azure, or, to spread FUD to facilitate a purchase, but that's too much for HN, i'll loose this account, again lol
  - AlwaysRock 4y ago
    The common denominator is hardware, there is something fishy about hardware, some people might have breached it and are able to join what ever hardware they want. Sounds pretty silly to pick a random thing and say its the culprit huh?
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Nothing can be more silly then a 16yo teenager from the UK leaking GTA 6 :) There is more to it than these pseudo rumors
  - bastardoperator 4y ago
    I don't disagree that slack is a common denominator, but slack is owned by Salesforce and Heroku was recently hacked via AWS. If anything here is fishy, it's Salesforce owned/operated services.
- dijit 4y ago
  > I doubt this leak will affect the sales, although I can understand why the developers would prefer to not have their half finished work leaked like that. Speaking from experience: gamedev has a lot of things that get removed or rejigged. Leaks like these not only destroy the feel of the game as a finished product it also gives unrealistic promises. Case in point: There was a Snowdrop tech demo that got leaked which included "the division" with stealth mechanics. Such mechanics were technically impossible (for a lot of reasons I don't want to get into); but that leak had people going nuts because it looked cool. (to be perfectly fair to the hype-train: the division was oversold in an official E3 trailer in 2013 anyway; before Ubisoft had details of the next generation hardware specs, same year as watchdogs... oops.)
- namelessoracle 4y ago
  The commonality seems to be Slack. They either know some way to exploit Slack, or they have a setup to social engineer Slack in particular. (maybe both)
marban 4y ago
Any press is good press — I'm not a gamer but can someone explain all the negativity? I assume it wasn't a surprise that another version is in the making.
- WilTimSon 4y ago
  A) It taints the perception of the game beforehand. People look at an incredibly raw bit of gameplay footage and go "wow, this looks like trash!" B) The guy who did the leaking apparently tried to sell the source code, which is just scummy and would likely result in significant retooling from the devs' side, which means time and effort wasted. C) While I personally don't subscribe to the glamour and glitz, there is something nice about a clean rollout for something anticipated or a surprise release. I remember seeing the first trailer for Peele's Nope and being incredibly excited because I heard nothing about the movie prior to that. If it was leaked or the screenplay was floating around with spoilers, I'd be somewhat less enthused.
  - eminence32 4y ago
    > It taints the perception of the game beforehand. People look at an incredibly raw bit of gameplay footage and go "wow, this looks like trash!" I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have to say I'm surprised that people would think this. Looking by analogy at big Hollywood movies, movie studios often release their own "behind the scenes" video clips, and as far as I can tell, these clips aren't generally considered to detract from the finished movie in anyway (and I personally find them, and this GTA leaked video, fascinating)
    - heyheyhey 4y ago
      > Looking by analogy at big Hollywood movies, movie studios often release their own "behind the scenes" video clips More apt analogy would be a workprint of a movie being leaked. This happened with "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" where lots of the special effects were still in progress so the workprint looked really cheap in some parts. But the people likely to watch a workprint and then form their opinion on that is incredibly small.
xwdv 4y ago
Social engineering attacks are destructive not just because of the data that is compromised but also because it makes us paranoid of interacting with others and forces us to adopt increasingly anti-social practices.
YPPH 4y ago
If I were one of the internal tools programmers, I wouldn't be "extremely disappointed" by this leak... I'm seriously impressed by the quality of the internal tooling. All that effort only to be seen and used internally. And yet they still polish the UI! Most of the internal tools where I work look terrible, unless they're web based where some framework can do the hand holding.
- Comevius 4y ago
  They are using imgui. It would be hard to find a game studio that doesn't. https://github.com/ocornut/imgui https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
  - Karsteski 4y ago
    It's great that DearImgui is used in so many places! I immediately noticed it. It got me started on GUIs in C++ a few years ago when I was new to programming :)
  - bmitc 4y ago
    Just dropping a note that the developers want it referred to as Dear ImGui. https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/blob/master/docs/FAQ.md#q-what-is-this-library-called https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/blob/master/docs/FAQ.md#q-w...
    - 3np 4y ago
      Such an awkward thing to be particular about. Renaming the repo and binary to dimgui or something would be so much more impactful in this than running around correcting people for using the actual name of both the repo and binary when referring to the application. If I was asked by Bram Moolenaar to start calling vim "dear vim" starting tomorrow I would kindly tell them to fork off (and do a proper rename in the process ;)) (I don't mean that you are "running around" but someone is)
      - spoils19 4y ago
numair 4y ago
I think this is overhyped as damaging and negative. In fact, GTA VI seemed to be on the path to becoming the “new Duke Nukem Forever,” which is no longer the case. Everything I’ve seen from the leak indicates this will be a really great game with the same cinematic qualities and cultural relevance that remains somewhat unique to this franchise. It’s not great from a creative standpoint to have parts of your narrative out there for inspection and criticism, true, but from a commercial perspective the timing of this leak (weekend of Tokyo Game Show) could not be better. More people are talking about this than whatever announcements took place at TGS.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  Duke Nukem Forever was such a disappointment. One of the things that made Duke Nukem 3D such a smash hit was its shock value. It was probably the first mainstream game to include strippers. But DNF was delayed so long that by the time it came out, Duke's schtick was just cringe-worthy. It wasn't shocking or fun, it just felt like your 50 year old uncle telling the same sexist jokes from 20 years ago.
  - RajT88 4y ago
    DNF was a lot worse than 3d. If it had matched the level of distasteful / edgy humor, it'd have been a much better game. Tired, dated, yes. But better than what we got for sure. There was a lot of naked women raped and pregnant by aliens getting torn apart. I don't recall anything that bad in 3d. (Searching around for discussions on 3d, I can't find any reference to anything either)
- hoffs 4y ago
  > In fact, GTA VI seemed to be on the path to becoming the “new Duke Nukem Forever,” How did you get this perception? There was nothing to indicate that really and rdr2 was especially great single player experience.
  - numair 4y ago
    “Industry analysts anticipate that the next Grand Theft Auto will be out sometime in Take-Two’s 2024 fiscal year, which runs from April 2023 through March 2024, but developers are skeptical. The game has been in development in some form since 2014. Although there are loose schedules in place, people interviewed for this article said they didn’t know of any firm release date and that they expect the game to be at least two years away. Earlier this year, a group of designers quit Rockstar’s Edinburgh office, telling colleagues they were sick of the lack of progress.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/gta-6-release-date-rockstar-cleans-up-image-after-employee-backlash https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/gta-6-rel...
thepasswordis 4y ago
I'm a completely casual game in the sense that: basically the only games I've ever really played and enjoyed that much are GTA and Skyrim. I have an Xbox and a gaming PC, because people talk about video games as if they're really fun, but I have just never actually been able to materialize that for myself. I figured the next GTA was never coming out, and that they would just keep milking the current one until the end of time. This leak showed that not only are they working on it, but it looks really cool. I have a tough time seeing how anybody would see this leak as a negative. The game looks great.
- groovybits 4y ago
  GTA 6 was officially announced Feb 4, 2022 At the bottom of this blog post, under "What's next" https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak73k92o47ko75/grand-theft-auto-community-update https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak73k92o47ko7...
- racl101 4y ago
  > This leak showed that not only are they working on it, but it looks really cool. I think it's simply a matter of being in control of your own product. It ain't cool that people can just hack your servers and dump your stuff that's a work in progress for the world to critique and make memes about.
ericzawo 4y ago
Most of the videos are still available on the hacker's twitter: https://twitter.com/Jinxintel https://twitter.com/Jinxintel It seems he's outside of the US if asking for some type of monetary reward / bribe. Either way it appears Rockstar is taking this (rightly) extremely seriously, and hopefully it won't delay the game much more, as they are one of the few remaining major development shops that don't bend their game's quality to market timelines.
AlwaysRock 4y ago
Only thing I was bummed about was it looks like the have the same punch animation they have been using forever... But otherwise it looked like a pretty decent game in progress.
- zydex 4y ago
  It’s likely they were using placeholder animations at such an early stage of the game’s production. I think we’ll see all-new animations for VI.
- deleted 4y ago
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ReptileMan 4y ago
He should have just replaced the code with vice city one. This way we will be sure we get the most awesome game possible.
- naet 4y ago
  Vice City is by far my favorite GTA game and every few years I spin it up for a bit on my old PS2. They've moved the series more towards some kind of realism since then, but I love the arcade like qualities of Vice City and GTA 3. The whole city is a great parody of Miami, with constant parties and vibrant colors, seedy clubs and funny radio shows, etc. The general action and driving quality is more cartoonish and video game like to me than the newer versions. GTA5 by comparison feels so much more stiff (and the GTA 6 leak video looked to be following directly in GTA5's footsteps).
JadoJodo 4y ago
> "We are extremely disappointed to have any details of our next game shared with you in this way." Granted, it could happen to anyone, but this is the kind of messaging I would expect if someone had accidentally emailed screenshots to IGN, not as the result of a breach.
davidork 4y ago
it would be a lot rmore interesting if they were hacked by an inside party.
s-xyz 4y ago
I am not a huge fps gamer, but every time a new GTA comes out I tend to buy a new console. I am worried this time that there might be shortages when GTA6 comes out, and as such will already order one for xmas as a preemptive measure. As for this hack, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I am thrilled to see some gameplay, on the other I also respect Rockstar enough to not look at it. Still doubting.
swat535 4y ago
I feel for the engineers and artists at Rockstar right now.. I don't think people realize how devastating this can be to them. Imagine you are working really hard on a creative project, coming up with different designs, prototypes, and solutions but then all of it gets leaked to the public without your consent. After this leak, _all_ the mystery is gone.. we underestimate the rush of dopamine designers get from the validation of unveiling something beautiful and perfect to the public. Short of completely reworking major parts of this project, all they can do now is to improve the existing assets and build upon it. Further, the executives might put more pressure on the teams since people are expecting a release, marketing has to crank up unexpectedly, PR needs to shift gear, security has to be tightened and so on. This is not a fun situation for anyone. I hope the person responsible for this gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
unstatusthequo 4y ago
Great that there is some information about the game now. They are extremely bad at generating excitement despite the huge amounts of money they make from these and the loyal fan base.
berry_sortoro 4y ago

217 points by razin 4y ago

I don't play multiplayer games, but GTA single player are some of my favorite games. As long as there is a good single player campaign in GTA VI I'll buy it pretty much immediately when it's available for PC, as I'm sure plenty of others will as well. I doubt this leak will affect the sales, although I can understand why the developers would prefer to not have their half finished work leaked like that. According to the thread on gtaforums it was allegedly the same hacker that recently hacked Uber. Will be interesting to read more about this when there's more info out, I assume they have something in common and that more companies are vulnerable.

afavour 4y ago
IIRC Uber was hacked via human weakness in multi-factor authentication. It’s actually something a ton of companies are vulnerable to so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see it replicated here.
- shmde 4y ago
  Yes it was replicated here the same way as the uber hack. Using social engineering.
- sorenjan 4y ago
  Is this what zero trust is supposed to protect against? It's weird to let everyone have free reign over critical infrastructure and data once you gain access to the network. Are there any network security that uses AI to automatically detect and flag unusual behavior? For example, a regular developer doesn't need to port scan the entire network, the receptionist's computer doesn't need to log in to admin resources, support personnel doesn't need to access source code, etc. This should be possible to flag and let a human verify.
  - goodoldneon 4y ago
    Zero trust doesn’t mean 0 network segmentation. Zero trust is supposed to be the opposite of walled gardens
    - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
      "Zero trust" is a buzzword with no real meaning, IMO.
  - not1ofU 4y ago
    Yes, - the tech is called UBA (user behaviour analytics.. or something) - over time it builds a baseline of what a user does in a typical day/ week/ month as part of their role, and if they deviate from that base pattern then an alert can be triggered on different thresholds - for example, why is a member of support downloading the entire production database (not that they should have access there, but you get my point)
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  That was the initial attack vector. But it looks like there has been a lot of lateral movement in that hack. I don't think a single user account would have had access to that much information and if it did that's part of the reason for the hack too, not just the initial breach method.
Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
Rockstar Games is coming for you in the sense that the even the map will be on DLCs
- hoffs 4y ago
  Soooo trueeee
koheripbal 4y ago
The story lines have been getting more and more shallow. Simple cooperative heists, killings, theft, etc, with very predictable gang assertion themes. They are investing far more time and effort into "online" - the leaks confirmed this. "Open worlds" lend themselves to shallow micro-stories. Maybe I'm being a grumpy old man, but in video game history, the best games were those that had complex character development, and novel worlds that supported a deep and thoughtful plot - something that would make the player have some emotional investment in. I don't see any evidence of that in recent GTA games.
- jeffwask 4y ago
  I played the GTA5 campaign twice it was brilliant. RDR2 had a brilliant campaign. I'm not giving up on Rockstar delivering a superlative campaign and multiplayer
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    Rockstar has a jaw-droppingly great track record, and I can understand giving them the benefit of the doubt and having super high expectations. They're one of the few entities that has earned that respect. However with some of the trends in the gaming industry, as well as the heavier focus on multiplayer and transactions that nickel-and-dime customers, I'd personally temper my expectations about any future titles to avoid disappointment.
    - bobthepanda 4y ago
      In general, pre-ordering isn’t a great idea. Money is worth more now than in the future, and the quality and price of the game does not change significantly between the last day to preorder and the first day reviews drop.
      - icecap12 4y ago
        You’re absolutely right, I’m done preordering games. I didn’t do it much anyway, but nowadays it’s just not worth it. The most recent and egregious example that comes to my mind was the latest Battlefield. My goodness was that a turd, and lots of people felt rightfully burned after preordering that game and essentially getting a totally unfinished product.
22SAS 4y ago
>As long as there is a good single player campaign in GTA VI I'll buy it pretty much immediately when it's available Same here. I used to game a lot in high school and college, then I stopped. The only thing that ever gets me to fire up the console again is a new release of GTA and a new release of CoD (provided the story is good and not some futuristic crap). Last time was when the Modern Warfare reboot was released in 2019. The 2nd part is coming this year, so it looks I will be playing it as soon as it is available. Same with GTA VI, although I guess that will be a lot longer from now, given this hack.
Kukumber 4y ago
The common denominator is Slack, there is something fishy about Slack, some people might have breached them and are able to join what ever server they want Hence how they managed to download the whole "leaked" content from Slack message history Uber, now Rockstar, if i was wearing my conspiracy theorist hat, i would say it's that secretive group that operate Microsoft, either they want to force them to use azure, or, to spread FUD to facilitate a purchase, but that's too much for HN, i'll loose this account, again lol
- AlwaysRock 4y ago
  The common denominator is hardware, there is something fishy about hardware, some people might have breached it and are able to join what ever hardware they want. Sounds pretty silly to pick a random thing and say its the culprit huh?
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Nothing can be more silly then a 16yo teenager from the UK leaking GTA 6 :) There is more to it than these pseudo rumors
- bastardoperator 4y ago
  I don't disagree that slack is a common denominator, but slack is owned by Salesforce and Heroku was recently hacked via AWS. If anything here is fishy, it's Salesforce owned/operated services.
dijit 4y ago
> I doubt this leak will affect the sales, although I can understand why the developers would prefer to not have their half finished work leaked like that. Speaking from experience: gamedev has a lot of things that get removed or rejigged. Leaks like these not only destroy the feel of the game as a finished product it also gives unrealistic promises. Case in point: There was a Snowdrop tech demo that got leaked which included "the division" with stealth mechanics. Such mechanics were technically impossible (for a lot of reasons I don't want to get into); but that leak had people going nuts because it looked cool. (to be perfectly fair to the hype-train: the division was oversold in an official E3 trailer in 2013 anyway; before Ubisoft had details of the next generation hardware specs, same year as watchdogs... oops.)
namelessoracle 4y ago
The commonality seems to be Slack. They either know some way to exploit Slack, or they have a setup to social engineer Slack in particular. (maybe both)

marban 4y ago

Any press is good press — I'm not a gamer but can someone explain all the negativity? I assume it wasn't a surprise that another version is in the making.

WilTimSon 4y ago
A) It taints the perception of the game beforehand. People look at an incredibly raw bit of gameplay footage and go "wow, this looks like trash!" B) The guy who did the leaking apparently tried to sell the source code, which is just scummy and would likely result in significant retooling from the devs' side, which means time and effort wasted. C) While I personally don't subscribe to the glamour and glitz, there is something nice about a clean rollout for something anticipated or a surprise release. I remember seeing the first trailer for Peele's Nope and being incredibly excited because I heard nothing about the movie prior to that. If it was leaked or the screenplay was floating around with spoilers, I'd be somewhat less enthused.
- eminence32 4y ago
  > It taints the perception of the game beforehand. People look at an incredibly raw bit of gameplay footage and go "wow, this looks like trash!" I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have to say I'm surprised that people would think this. Looking by analogy at big Hollywood movies, movie studios often release their own "behind the scenes" video clips, and as far as I can tell, these clips aren't generally considered to detract from the finished movie in anyway (and I personally find them, and this GTA leaked video, fascinating)
  - heyheyhey 4y ago
    > Looking by analogy at big Hollywood movies, movie studios often release their own "behind the scenes" video clips More apt analogy would be a workprint of a movie being leaked. This happened with "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" where lots of the special effects were still in progress so the workprint looked really cheap in some parts. But the people likely to watch a workprint and then form their opinion on that is incredibly small.

xwdv 4y ago

Social engineering attacks are destructive not just because of the data that is compromised but also because it makes us paranoid of interacting with others and forces us to adopt increasingly anti-social practices.

YPPH 4y ago

If I were one of the internal tools programmers, I wouldn't be "extremely disappointed" by this leak... I'm seriously impressed by the quality of the internal tooling. All that effort only to be seen and used internally. And yet they still polish the UI! Most of the internal tools where I work look terrible, unless they're web based where some framework can do the hand holding.

Comevius 4y ago
They are using imgui. It would be hard to find a game studio that doesn't. https://github.com/ocornut/imgui https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
- Karsteski 4y ago
  It's great that DearImgui is used in so many places! I immediately noticed it. It got me started on GUIs in C++ a few years ago when I was new to programming :)
- bmitc 4y ago
  Just dropping a note that the developers want it referred to as Dear ImGui. https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/blob/master/docs/FAQ.md#q-what-is-this-library-called https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/blob/master/docs/FAQ.md#q-w...
  - 3np 4y ago
    Such an awkward thing to be particular about. Renaming the repo and binary to dimgui or something would be so much more impactful in this than running around correcting people for using the actual name of both the repo and binary when referring to the application. If I was asked by Bram Moolenaar to start calling vim "dear vim" starting tomorrow I would kindly tell them to fork off (and do a proper rename in the process ;)) (I don't mean that you are "running around" but someone is)
    - spoils19 4y ago

numair 4y ago

I think this is overhyped as damaging and negative. In fact, GTA VI seemed to be on the path to becoming the “new Duke Nukem Forever,” which is no longer the case. Everything I’ve seen from the leak indicates this will be a really great game with the same cinematic qualities and cultural relevance that remains somewhat unique to this franchise. It’s not great from a creative standpoint to have parts of your narrative out there for inspection and criticism, true, but from a commercial perspective the timing of this leak (weekend of Tokyo Game Show) could not be better. More people are talking about this than whatever announcements took place at TGS.

Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
Duke Nukem Forever was such a disappointment. One of the things that made Duke Nukem 3D such a smash hit was its shock value. It was probably the first mainstream game to include strippers. But DNF was delayed so long that by the time it came out, Duke's schtick was just cringe-worthy. It wasn't shocking or fun, it just felt like your 50 year old uncle telling the same sexist jokes from 20 years ago.
- RajT88 4y ago
  DNF was a lot worse than 3d. If it had matched the level of distasteful / edgy humor, it'd have been a much better game. Tired, dated, yes. But better than what we got for sure. There was a lot of naked women raped and pregnant by aliens getting torn apart. I don't recall anything that bad in 3d. (Searching around for discussions on 3d, I can't find any reference to anything either)
hoffs 4y ago
> In fact, GTA VI seemed to be on the path to becoming the “new Duke Nukem Forever,” How did you get this perception? There was nothing to indicate that really and rdr2 was especially great single player experience.
- numair 4y ago
  “Industry analysts anticipate that the next Grand Theft Auto will be out sometime in Take-Two’s 2024 fiscal year, which runs from April 2023 through March 2024, but developers are skeptical. The game has been in development in some form since 2014. Although there are loose schedules in place, people interviewed for this article said they didn’t know of any firm release date and that they expect the game to be at least two years away. Earlier this year, a group of designers quit Rockstar’s Edinburgh office, telling colleagues they were sick of the lack of progress.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/gta-6-release-date-rockstar-cleans-up-image-after-employee-backlash https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/gta-6-rel...

thepasswordis 4y ago

I'm a completely casual game in the sense that: basically the only games I've ever really played and enjoyed that much are GTA and Skyrim. I have an Xbox and a gaming PC, because people talk about video games as if they're really fun, but I have just never actually been able to materialize that for myself. I figured the next GTA was never coming out, and that they would just keep milking the current one until the end of time. This leak showed that not only are they working on it, but it looks really cool. I have a tough time seeing how anybody would see this leak as a negative. The game looks great.

groovybits 4y ago
GTA 6 was officially announced Feb 4, 2022 At the bottom of this blog post, under "What's next" https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak73k92o47ko75/grand-theft-auto-community-update https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak73k92o47ko7...
racl101 4y ago
> This leak showed that not only are they working on it, but it looks really cool. I think it's simply a matter of being in control of your own product. It ain't cool that people can just hack your servers and dump your stuff that's a work in progress for the world to critique and make memes about.

ericzawo 4y ago

Most of the videos are still available on the hacker's twitter: https://twitter.com/Jinxintel https://twitter.com/Jinxintel It seems he's outside of the US if asking for some type of monetary reward / bribe. Either way it appears Rockstar is taking this (rightly) extremely seriously, and hopefully it won't delay the game much more, as they are one of the few remaining major development shops that don't bend their game's quality to market timelines.

AlwaysRock 4y ago

Only thing I was bummed about was it looks like the have the same punch animation they have been using forever... But otherwise it looked like a pretty decent game in progress.

zydex 4y ago
It’s likely they were using placeholder animations at such an early stage of the game’s production. I think we’ll see all-new animations for VI.
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ReptileMan 4y ago

He should have just replaced the code with vice city one. This way we will be sure we get the most awesome game possible.

naet 4y ago
Vice City is by far my favorite GTA game and every few years I spin it up for a bit on my old PS2. They've moved the series more towards some kind of realism since then, but I love the arcade like qualities of Vice City and GTA 3. The whole city is a great parody of Miami, with constant parties and vibrant colors, seedy clubs and funny radio shows, etc. The general action and driving quality is more cartoonish and video game like to me than the newer versions. GTA5 by comparison feels so much more stiff (and the GTA 6 leak video looked to be following directly in GTA5's footsteps).

JadoJodo 4y ago

> "We are extremely disappointed to have any details of our next game shared with you in this way." Granted, it could happen to anyone, but this is the kind of messaging I would expect if someone had accidentally emailed screenshots to IGN, not as the result of a breach.

davidork 4y ago

it would be a lot rmore interesting if they were hacked by an inside party.

s-xyz 4y ago

I am not a huge fps gamer, but every time a new GTA comes out I tend to buy a new console. I am worried this time that there might be shortages when GTA6 comes out, and as such will already order one for xmas as a preemptive measure. As for this hack, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I am thrilled to see some gameplay, on the other I also respect Rockstar enough to not look at it. Still doubting.

swat535 4y ago

I feel for the engineers and artists at Rockstar right now.. I don't think people realize how devastating this can be to them. Imagine you are working really hard on a creative project, coming up with different designs, prototypes, and solutions but then all of it gets leaked to the public without your consent. After this leak, _all_ the mystery is gone.. we underestimate the rush of dopamine designers get from the validation of unveiling something beautiful and perfect to the public. Short of completely reworking major parts of this project, all they can do now is to improve the existing assets and build upon it. Further, the executives might put more pressure on the teams since people are expecting a release, marketing has to crank up unexpectedly, PR needs to shift gear, security has to be tightened and so on. This is not a fun situation for anyone. I hope the person responsible for this gets prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

unstatusthequo 4y ago

Great that there is some information about the game now. They are extremely bad at generating excitement despite the huge amounts of money they make from these and the loyal fan base.

berry_sortoro 4y ago