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If I have a know I have problem, I'll look for a solution myself, and perform an objective comparison. I don't need some marketing asshat's stilted sales copy

If I have a know I have problem, I'll look for a solution myself, and perform an objective comparison. I don't need some marketing asshat's stilted sales copy designed to con idiots into buying. Convincing people who are happy that they have problems they need to spend money to solve for your personal benefit is morally dubious at best.

micromacrofoot 4y ago
don’t you form an opinion by looking at reviews made by the idiots conned by those asshats?
- ajl666 4y ago
  It's too subtle a point. The argument here is not about logic, but about intellectual honesty. The parent you replied to believes everybody else is unduly influenced by 'asshats' and that his/her favored influencers are not 'asshats.' As if Ezra Pound or Edmund Teller weren't 'asshats' for nuclear explosive mining, or fascism. Dismissing advertisers for being into the 'filthy lucre?' So what should we do with all the engineers doing the same?
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  Some of the reviewers were conned, some weren't, but they actually have the product in front of them and they're generally honest.
  - micromacrofoot 4y ago
    Unfortunately the prevalence of reviews in exchange for money or free product warps this significantly. In those cases, reviewers are being paid to con you with their bias, even if they're unaware.
deltree7 4y ago
Unknown Unknowns. How would you let people people know that they may be prone to cancer? How can you inform the world population that there exists coursera that teaches you skills on any imaginable subject that may change their lives? Most people aren't looking for those categories of information.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > How would you let people people know that they may be prone to cancer? Provide universal healthcare and continuing education for doctors. Advertisers sure as shit aren't the answer.
  - deltree7 4y ago
    Pray tell me how would you provide Universal Healthcare for someone in Kenya or Bangladesh. HN is full of elitist arm-chair critics, whose life is so good that they need to feel persecuted by ........ Advertisements. OMG

micromacrofoot 4y ago

don’t you form an opinion by looking at reviews made by the idiots conned by those asshats?

ajl666 4y ago
It's too subtle a point. The argument here is not about logic, but about intellectual honesty. The parent you replied to believes everybody else is unduly influenced by 'asshats' and that his/her favored influencers are not 'asshats.' As if Ezra Pound or Edmund Teller weren't 'asshats' for nuclear explosive mining, or fascism. Dismissing advertisers for being into the 'filthy lucre?' So what should we do with all the engineers doing the same?
Dylan16807 4y ago
Some of the reviewers were conned, some weren't, but they actually have the product in front of them and they're generally honest.
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  Unfortunately the prevalence of reviews in exchange for money or free product warps this significantly. In those cases, reviewers are being paid to con you with their bias, even if they're unaware.

deltree7 4y ago

Unknown Unknowns. How would you let people people know that they may be prone to cancer? How can you inform the world population that there exists coursera that teaches you skills on any imaginable subject that may change their lives? Most people aren't looking for those categories of information.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
> How would you let people people know that they may be prone to cancer? Provide universal healthcare and continuing education for doctors. Advertisers sure as shit aren't the answer.
- deltree7 4y ago
  Pray tell me how would you provide Universal Healthcare for someone in Kenya or Bangladesh. HN is full of elitist arm-chair critics, whose life is so good that they need to feel persecuted by ........ Advertisements. OMG