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Uh, what? White males have been speaking freely (and continue to do so) for as long as the concept of racial hierarchy has existed. The American tech industry
by JimmieMcnulty 4y ago
Uh, what? White males have been speaking freely (and continue to do so) for as long as the concept of racial hierarchy has existed.
The American tech industry is run by (straight) white men, we're doing most of the speaking, highly disproportionate to our representation globally (where the impact of our decision are felt).
- patrick451 4y agoCitation needed. I'll offer another assertion without proof: white males are the most cancellable demographic in the world today.
- Kloversight2 4y ago[dead]
- patrick451 4y agoNone of these references address the broad, cross-cultural historical claim that "White males have been speaking freely (and continue to do so) for as long as the concept of racial hierarchy has existed."
- AstralStorm 4y agoSure, if you ignore all the other demographics. Usually talking anything disagreeable will get you anywhere from passed over for promotion, shitcanned, fired for any imaginary reason of applicable. It affects women more than men, and interacts with racism too as judgements are harsher, so the threshold of what is "unacceptable" is tighter.
- pessimizer 4y agoThere is a cancel culture that has created a chilling effect on the speech of white men, and denying it is gaslighting. White men now have to think more than twice about explaining their extremely interesting opinions about race or about women's appearances/intelligence, especially at work. It's been a slippery slope ever since somebody decided that white people couldn't shout the "N-word," even if they were singing a song or quoting a black person. I obviously think it's a good thing (but only to the above extent.) But it is bad to tell people that they're crazy, because it makes them upset when they know they're not.
- Kloversight2 4y agoWhite men are now having to do what every other ethnic/gender group has had to do for hundreds of years; that's not cancel culture, that's growing equity. Thinking before you speak is a great idea, and a lot more people should do it. And when it comes to technical conversations (the topic of this post), literally none of this is true at all. White men are absolutely and completely free to say literally any work-related thing they want, there is no chilling effect present there.
- dang 4y agoUsing multiple accounts to give the appearance of multiple voices in an argument is obviously abusive. We ban such accounts and I've banned these. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- tbrownaw 4y ago> The American tech industry is run by (straight) white men Microsoft, Google, Adobe, IBM, ....
- adventured 4y agoAlso: Nvidia, Apple, Oracle, Broadcom
- dang 4y agoUsing multiple accounts to give the appearance of multiple voices in an argument is obviously abusive. We ban such accounts and I've banned these. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- JimmieMcnulty 4y ago