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Facebook moderates their platform and worked to remove the content. 8kun does no such thing. I loathe Facebook, the pharma industry, and the capitalist machine

Facebook moderates their platform and worked to remove the content. 8kun does no such thing. I loathe Facebook, the pharma industry, and the capitalist machine which perpetuates these evils. But this is a whataboutism.

betwixthewires 4y ago
And why should the content be removed?
- marcus_holmes 4y ago
  It's a livestream of a racist gunman shooting actual people, together with his commentary. Real people are really being killed in that video. I'm not a fan of censorship, but this shouldn't be publicly available.
  - verisimilitudes 4y ago
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  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    Well, it's just a video now. It was a live stream. It's awful what happened, but it's just footage documenting the event now. I understand why you wouldn't want it hosted on something like Facebook or Instagram or whatever, but to say it shouldn't be out there somewhere? What if someone wants to analyze the event, most big events don't have near that level of documentation. How is it different at this point (just the video of the event, not the event itself) from journalists documenting other awful things?
DoItToMe81 4y ago
It was moderated, though. The thread was deleted, the shooter was banned, and multiple users cheering him on were banned.
- richbell 4y ago
  More recently, the post that allegedly got Kiwi Farms removed from CloudFlare — a dubious bomb threat made by a previously inactive account — was removed from the site quicker than Facebook removed the Christchurch shooter's livestream. Or, even more recently, a man live streamed himself shooting people for ~6 hours (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/police-man-driving-around-memphis-shooting-at-people https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/police-ma...). Facebook seems to be doing a poor job of moderating content.
- tjpnz 4y ago
  Except that wasn't the end of it as the video was being reposted on Facebook for months. I remember reporting one instance if it and it took more than a day before it was removed.

betwixthewires 4y ago

And why should the content be removed?

marcus_holmes 4y ago
It's a livestream of a racist gunman shooting actual people, together with his commentary. Real people are really being killed in that video. I'm not a fan of censorship, but this shouldn't be publicly available.
- verisimilitudes 4y ago
  [flagged]
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  Well, it's just a video now. It was a live stream. It's awful what happened, but it's just footage documenting the event now. I understand why you wouldn't want it hosted on something like Facebook or Instagram or whatever, but to say it shouldn't be out there somewhere? What if someone wants to analyze the event, most big events don't have near that level of documentation. How is it different at this point (just the video of the event, not the event itself) from journalists documenting other awful things?

DoItToMe81 4y ago

It was moderated, though. The thread was deleted, the shooter was banned, and multiple users cheering him on were banned.

richbell 4y ago
More recently, the post that allegedly got Kiwi Farms removed from CloudFlare — a dubious bomb threat made by a previously inactive account — was removed from the site quicker than Facebook removed the Christchurch shooter's livestream. Or, even more recently, a man live streamed himself shooting people for ~6 hours (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/police-man-driving-around-memphis-shooting-at-people https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/police-ma...). Facebook seems to be doing a poor job of moderating content.
tjpnz 4y ago
Except that wasn't the end of it as the video was being reposted on Facebook for months. I remember reporting one instance if it and it took more than a day before it was removed.