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ehhhh I disagree. I definitely cringe when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Also Jaw

ehhhh I disagree. I definitely cringe when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Also Jawn being put on pins and shirts is also very cringe to me

lc9er 4y ago
Yeah. I feel like there's two types of people that actually use jawn: those that are very Philly and those that are trying, really, really hard to sound Philly. I can't say I've said jawn with a straight face since I was a little kid.
gerdesj 4y ago
"I definitely cringe" and "Also ... is also ... very cringe to me" You certainly get plenty of mileage out of the word cringe. Is it a verb, is it an adjective - who knows? Your also ... also construct riffs on "either ... or", "both ... and" and the like. There must be a name for terms like that - you get them in Latin too so they've been around for a while eg nec ... necque (neither ... nor). Jawn is just a colloquialism but I've seen also ... also several times before now. I've also seen very cringe too. I am not taking the piss but I feel that I am watching language evolve right in front of me. I suspect that whilst this article and set of threads gets itself all whizzed up over jawn, it is missing the rather bigger point about language and conversations that travel at the speed of light instead of just sound and is distributed by the internet and not just the post office. On HN we pontificators have an audience that a Roman Imperator could only dream of.
- phlalexsh 4y ago
  - serf 4y ago
    you'd have to be blind and deaf not to notice that gradual downhill slide of popular vocabulary. It may have been said with a bit more grace, but they're not wrong either. "Gee, 20% of this paragraph is the same word, perhaps it would serve me well to mix it up."
  - dang 4y ago
    Yikes, please don't do this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pwdisswordfish0 4y ago
> when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Same thing happens with "y'all", even though it's nowhere close to being as esoteric/regional. A couple years ago, Twitter seemed to have become obsessed with incorporating it conspicuously into every other tweet. I didn't even know "y'all" had rules until that happened. (I couldn't really tell you what those rules are, but it was popping up in places that were so syntactically awkward, by people who were clearly not "y'all" natives. So they definitely exist.)
- kibwen 4y ago
  I welcome the imminent and inevitable "y'all" supremacy as a way to help destigmatize the US southern accent. It's just a damn good word, y'all.
  - tomcam 4y ago
    y'all are right
    - alehlopeh 4y ago
      Sentences that end with a y’all still come across as distinctly Southern. Sentences that begin with y’all, on the other hand, sound normal or dare I say even hip. To me that is.
      - tomcam 4y ago
        Thanks y’all
- phlalexsh 4y ago
  I also get annoyed when people I grew up started saying y'all. WE"RE PHILADELPHIANS WE SAY YOUS or you guys
  - jhauris 4y ago
Andrex 4y ago
For Boston/Mass it's "wicked." You can tell when someone injects it naturally and they grew up with its various contexts, or you're a new transplant and it's usually used in every other sentence. I was the latter circa 2012 but ~8 years in Boston tempered my use, haha.
scruple 4y ago
> I definitely cringe when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Yinz [0] has a special place in my heart, because I was born and raised in western PA, but yinzers [1] sometimes leaving me feeling the same way. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinz [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinzer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinzer

lc9er 4y ago

Yeah. I feel like there's two types of people that actually use jawn: those that are very Philly and those that are trying, really, really hard to sound Philly. I can't say I've said jawn with a straight face since I was a little kid.

gerdesj 4y ago

"I definitely cringe" and "Also ... is also ... very cringe to me" You certainly get plenty of mileage out of the word cringe. Is it a verb, is it an adjective - who knows? Your also ... also construct riffs on "either ... or", "both ... and" and the like. There must be a name for terms like that - you get them in Latin too so they've been around for a while eg nec ... necque (neither ... nor). Jawn is just a colloquialism but I've seen also ... also several times before now. I've also seen very cringe too. I am not taking the piss but I feel that I am watching language evolve right in front of me. I suspect that whilst this article and set of threads gets itself all whizzed up over jawn, it is missing the rather bigger point about language and conversations that travel at the speed of light instead of just sound and is distributed by the internet and not just the post office. On HN we pontificators have an audience that a Roman Imperator could only dream of.

phlalexsh 4y ago
- serf 4y ago
  you'd have to be blind and deaf not to notice that gradual downhill slide of popular vocabulary. It may have been said with a bit more grace, but they're not wrong either. "Gee, 20% of this paragraph is the same word, perhaps it would serve me well to mix it up."
- dang 4y ago
  Yikes, please don't do this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

pwdisswordfish0 4y ago

> when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Same thing happens with "y'all", even though it's nowhere close to being as esoteric/regional. A couple years ago, Twitter seemed to have become obsessed with incorporating it conspicuously into every other tweet. I didn't even know "y'all" had rules until that happened. (I couldn't really tell you what those rules are, but it was popping up in places that were so syntactically awkward, by people who were clearly not "y'all" natives. So they definitely exist.)

kibwen 4y ago
I welcome the imminent and inevitable "y'all" supremacy as a way to help destigmatize the US southern accent. It's just a damn good word, y'all.
- tomcam 4y ago
  y'all are right
  - alehlopeh 4y ago
    Sentences that end with a y’all still come across as distinctly Southern. Sentences that begin with y’all, on the other hand, sound normal or dare I say even hip. To me that is.
    - tomcam 4y ago
      Thanks y’all
phlalexsh 4y ago
I also get annoyed when people I grew up started saying y'all. WE"RE PHILADELPHIANS WE SAY YOUS or you guys
- jhauris 4y ago

Andrex 4y ago

For Boston/Mass it's "wicked." You can tell when someone injects it naturally and they grew up with its various contexts, or you're a new transplant and it's usually used in every other sentence. I was the latter circa 2012 but ~8 years in Boston tempered my use, haha.

scruple 4y ago

> I definitely cringe when I hear a hipster who's lived here for 2 years try to inject jawn into every conversation. Feels very forced. Yinz [0] has a special place in my heart, because I was born and raised in western PA, but yinzers [1] sometimes leaving me feeling the same way. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinz [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinzer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinzer