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What authority do you think this bill is claiming that would be impacted by other countries launching? You can read it here: https://www.hickenlooper.senate.gov

What authority do you think this bill is claiming that would be impacted by other countries launching? You can read it here: https://www.hickenlooper.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ORBITS-Act-MCC22829-09082022.pdf https://www.hickenlooper.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/... It's establishing (assuming it gets passed and signed) the work for a demonstration program on active debris removal from orbit. It's not imposing the US government's will on anyone else.

landemva 4y ago
- abduhl 4y ago
  - landemva 4y ago
    - abduhl 4y ago
      I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Are you some kind of sovereign citizen? If you don't pay taxes then the USA government isn't spending your tax dollars like you said they were in your first post, is it?
      - filoleg 4y ago
        It means they are unemployed. I am not trying to attack the grandparent poster or anything, I seriously think that's what they intended to say. They are basically saying "I only have to pay income tax if I work, and the government cannot force me to work so they can extract tax money from me.". On an off-hand chance that they indeed just earn money under the table and do not report the income, it was probably not the sharpest idea to admit it on a large-visibility public form.
        landemva 4y ago
        Right. Additionally, a person can research 'what is a dollar', discuss what they learn with a really good CPA, and figure out some things.
    - jrockway 4y ago
      Yeah if you don't want to work, you don't have to pay income tax.
      - landemva 4y ago
        My CPA said that to me in 2007. I quit working later that week.
        Jtsummers 4y ago
- Jtsummers 4y ago
  It happens. Sue the government and stop it on Constitutional grounds. Vote in November and maybe change things. Run if you're sufficiently motivated. You also have the option of leaving the country and renouncing your citizenship. Or do like a guy I knew and don't pay taxes, though what happens after that may not be to your liking either (he didn't).
- azinman2 4y ago
  You could literally say this about anything the government does. If 100% citizen agreement was required for everything, government would do nothing. This is why we’re a republic - you elect your leaders that you best trust to make society-level decisions.
  - landemva 4y ago
    We empowered federal government in Constitution to do a limited list of things, with everything else explicitly reserved to the States and the people. Space Janitor can be put in Constitution via an amendment.
    - azinman2 4y ago
      The federal government can do what it likes with the legislative process, as long as it’s not unconstitutional. As this isn’t unconstitutional and is voted in by both houses, it then becomes law.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      That list is for making laws about what people can do. They can fund basically whatever they want.
      - landemva 4y ago
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        Unless a lot of people have serious religious objections to janitoring, there's nothing to stop it. Even if you had standing, what would you sue for? The government is spending its own money on the program. If it didn't spend that money, it would just sit around in the treasury. Not go through some kind of reverse tax process. > Can federal government force me Government spending doesn't mandate that you or anyone else has to do anything.
        4y ago

landemva 4y ago

abduhl 4y ago
- landemva 4y ago
  - abduhl 4y ago
    I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Are you some kind of sovereign citizen? If you don't pay taxes then the USA government isn't spending your tax dollars like you said they were in your first post, is it?
    - filoleg 4y ago
      It means they are unemployed. I am not trying to attack the grandparent poster or anything, I seriously think that's what they intended to say. They are basically saying "I only have to pay income tax if I work, and the government cannot force me to work so they can extract tax money from me.". On an off-hand chance that they indeed just earn money under the table and do not report the income, it was probably not the sharpest idea to admit it on a large-visibility public form.
      - landemva 4y ago
        Right. Additionally, a person can research 'what is a dollar', discuss what they learn with a really good CPA, and figure out some things.
  - jrockway 4y ago
    Yeah if you don't want to work, you don't have to pay income tax.
    - landemva 4y ago
      My CPA said that to me in 2007. I quit working later that week.
      - Jtsummers 4y ago
Jtsummers 4y ago
It happens. Sue the government and stop it on Constitutional grounds. Vote in November and maybe change things. Run if you're sufficiently motivated. You also have the option of leaving the country and renouncing your citizenship. Or do like a guy I knew and don't pay taxes, though what happens after that may not be to your liking either (he didn't).
azinman2 4y ago
You could literally say this about anything the government does. If 100% citizen agreement was required for everything, government would do nothing. This is why we’re a republic - you elect your leaders that you best trust to make society-level decisions.
- landemva 4y ago
  We empowered federal government in Constitution to do a limited list of things, with everything else explicitly reserved to the States and the people. Space Janitor can be put in Constitution via an amendment.
  - azinman2 4y ago
    The federal government can do what it likes with the legislative process, as long as it’s not unconstitutional. As this isn’t unconstitutional and is voted in by both houses, it then becomes law.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    That list is for making laws about what people can do. They can fund basically whatever they want.
    - landemva 4y ago
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        Unless a lot of people have serious religious objections to janitoring, there's nothing to stop it. Even if you had standing, what would you sue for? The government is spending its own money on the program. If it didn't spend that money, it would just sit around in the treasury. Not go through some kind of reverse tax process. > Can federal government force me Government spending doesn't mandate that you or anyone else has to do anything.
      - 4y ago