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I also had fun making gold in Skyrim, which was offline. I don't recall it being work, but whatever.

bombcar 4y ago
It can be a puzzle with a built in score and fun, but rarely are these direct-to-cash games fun. D3 got much better when the real money auction house closed.
- supernewton 4y ago
  I mean, the real improvement to D3 was they massively upped the drop rate of rare items, which "coincidentally" happened when they stopped taking a cut off people selling their rare items for real money.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Yeah. The money always causes a conflict with the fun. Only the pure cosmetic games seem to avoid that when the money flows.
- csa 4y ago
  Very much agreed, but… My favorite AH score was a max stat level 3 chest piece that I sold for $25. That piece was good for 5 or maybe 10 minutes of gameplay at the start of the game. I knew it was a premium piece for that level and type. I knew they didn’t stay on AH long. That said, I didn’t want to compete with all of the lower price point folks, so i set the price to something absurd just to see what happened. I have no idea why they bought it. I had much better late game stuff for sale for much cheaper that never sold. It was a strange market — I’m glad it is gone.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    People would search by “best I can equip” and you caught a whale.
- px43 4y ago
  In my opinion, nothing has ever come close to the rich economic system that emerged naturally in Diablo 2. Maybe it just hit me at a good time in my life, towards the end of high school. I spent probably half my time playing that game just doing arbitrage trading. For example a sorceress or necromancer would always give you 4-5 Perfect Skulls for a Stone of Jordan (SOJ) ring, and you could pretty easily buy an SOJ from a barbarian or amazon for 3-4 Perfect Skulls. Through nothing but these trades I was able to go from a couple SOJ (the most valuable 1x1 item in the game) to about 40 or 50 over the course of a few months.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    There was a stable economy time where there weren’t continual “buff patches” dumping more and more items, and it was a good time.
  - jholman 4y ago
    You sound like you've never played Eve Online
- charlieyu1 4y ago
  I would disagree with that. D3 RMAH was bad because D3 was bad. At that time there was basically no itemisation, everything gear was basically dps/main stat/trifecta. D3 was so bad that the fix was to remove trading completely and never been brought back. People traded D2 items for gear, runes and/or real money for decades, there is no problem and the game is alive for well.
jbverschoor 4y ago
Offline is key here
Melchori 4y ago
That's not the point I was making. Playing a little bit with game economics is fun to a certain point.

It can be a puzzle with a built in score and fun, but rarely are these direct-to-cash games fun. D3 got much better when the real money auction house closed.

supernewton 4y ago
I mean, the real improvement to D3 was they massively upped the drop rate of rare items, which "coincidentally" happened when they stopped taking a cut off people selling their rare items for real money.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Yeah. The money always causes a conflict with the fun. Only the pure cosmetic games seem to avoid that when the money flows.
csa 4y ago
Very much agreed, but… My favorite AH score was a max stat level 3 chest piece that I sold for $25. That piece was good for 5 or maybe 10 minutes of gameplay at the start of the game. I knew it was a premium piece for that level and type. I knew they didn’t stay on AH long. That said, I didn’t want to compete with all of the lower price point folks, so i set the price to something absurd just to see what happened. I have no idea why they bought it. I had much better late game stuff for sale for much cheaper that never sold. It was a strange market — I’m glad it is gone.
- bombcar 4y ago
  People would search by “best I can equip” and you caught a whale.
px43 4y ago
In my opinion, nothing has ever come close to the rich economic system that emerged naturally in Diablo 2. Maybe it just hit me at a good time in my life, towards the end of high school. I spent probably half my time playing that game just doing arbitrage trading. For example a sorceress or necromancer would always give you 4-5 Perfect Skulls for a Stone of Jordan (SOJ) ring, and you could pretty easily buy an SOJ from a barbarian or amazon for 3-4 Perfect Skulls. Through nothing but these trades I was able to go from a couple SOJ (the most valuable 1x1 item in the game) to about 40 or 50 over the course of a few months.
- bombcar 4y ago
  There was a stable economy time where there weren’t continual “buff patches” dumping more and more items, and it was a good time.
- jholman 4y ago
  You sound like you've never played Eve Online
charlieyu1 4y ago
I would disagree with that. D3 RMAH was bad because D3 was bad. At that time there was basically no itemisation, everything gear was basically dps/main stat/trifecta. D3 was so bad that the fix was to remove trading completely and never been brought back. People traded D2 items for gear, runes and/or real money for decades, there is no problem and the game is alive for well.

jbverschoor 4y ago

Offline is key here

Melchori 4y ago

That's not the point I was making. Playing a little bit with game economics is fun to a certain point.