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Still, why stop offering boosters for your population? Most Danes I knew were dutifully getting their boosters when called in by the health authorities. This se

Still, why stop offering boosters for your population? Most Danes I knew were dutifully getting their boosters when called in by the health authorities. This sets a bad precedent.

christmm 4y ago
eesmith 4y ago
Addressed in the Q&A section of the page: > Why are people aged under 50 not to be re-vaccinated? > The purpose of the vaccination programme is to prevent severe illness, hospitalisation and death. Therefore, people at the highest risk of becoming severely ill will be offered booster vaccination. The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination. > People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population. > It is important that the population also remembers the guidance on how to prevent the spread of infection, including staying at home in case of illness, frequent aeration or ventilation, social distancing, good coughing etiquette, hand hygiene and cleaning.
- emptysongglass 4y ago
  But all of this sounds like spin on why the health ministry doesn't want to spare the expense on general vaccination of all members of the population or else why generally vaccinate the population before? Even with third boosters we're seeing rapid mutations that break through so I'd assume gen pop would be in need of a fourth booster and fifth etc. to qualify for the protection to all members of society that general vaccination affords. This reads like obvious flip flopping that's a primarily economic decision.
  - Dah00n 4y ago
    I'm guessing you are not from Denmark as you read it in a completely different way than I do as a Dane.
    - hagbarth 4y ago
      As a Dane, I have to agree with you. Generally I trust the health authorities to recommend the action they deem appropriate and nothing more.
    - emptysongglass 4y ago
      I am a Dane but I spent half my life in the US so often have a different perspective than most of my countrymen.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    How is it "spin"? Public health is always intimately connected with questions of cost-effectiveness. Denmark also doesn't offer free influenza vaccinations to all adults. https://www.sst.dk/en/English/News/2022/Autumn-vaccinations-against-covid-19-and-influenza-are-to-help-us-through-the-winter https://www.sst.dk/en/English/News/2022/Autumn-vaccinations-... > We recommend influenza vaccination for everyone aged 65 and over as well as for persons with certain chronic diseases, children aged between 2 and 6, pregnant women in the second and third trimesters and staff in the healthcare and elderly care sector and selected parts of the social services sector. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine points out "Not all countries provide the [chickenpox] vaccine due to its cost."
  - Mashimo 4y ago
    They offer it for 85+ year old people right now, soon to 50+ people. What happens in the future is still open. There is no spin. If you are young with 3 shots you have relative good chances against covid. Right now there are 6 people with covid in a intensive care unit and 0 on respirator in all of Denmark.
  - cb14 4y ago
    It’s not about expense, it’s about safety and efficacy, the shots aren’t safe.
msylvest 4y ago
Denmark is still offering boosters - in a prioritized manner. First those aged 85+, second 50+, even below that if exposed by diseases. From what is written I would expect (third) general 50- boosters to occur during winter if needed.
mrweasel 4y ago
Most got their booster shots, but not as many as I thought or would like. 80% got the two shots, but only 61,7% got the booster. Both numbers are honestly MUCH lower than I'd expect. It's honestly not economical to keep up the high level of testing and vaccination, not if most don't really get that sick. People are also a lot better at staying home when sick, compared to earlier.
cb14 4y ago
It sets a good precedent, the shots aren’t safe or effective. Does everyone have amnesia about how these things were sold? They were supposed to stop the virus cold. So much for that. It’s a very good precedent. It wasn’t supposed to be an ongoing thing. The risk benefit just isn’t there except maybe for the most comorbid.

Still, why stop offering boosters for your population? Most Danes I knew were dutifully getting their boosters when called in by the health authorities. This sets a bad precedent.

christmm 4y ago

eesmith 4y ago

Addressed in the Q&A section of the page: > Why are people aged under 50 not to be re-vaccinated? > The purpose of the vaccination programme is to prevent severe illness, hospitalisation and death. Therefore, people at the highest risk of becoming severely ill will be offered booster vaccination. The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination. > People aged under 50 are generally not at particularly higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19. In addition, younger people aged under 50 are well protected against becoming severely ill from covid-19, as a very large number of them have already been vaccinated and have previously been infected with covid-19, and there is consequently good immunity among this part of the population. > It is important that the population also remembers the guidance on how to prevent the spread of infection, including staying at home in case of illness, frequent aeration or ventilation, social distancing, good coughing etiquette, hand hygiene and cleaning.

emptysongglass 4y ago
But all of this sounds like spin on why the health ministry doesn't want to spare the expense on general vaccination of all members of the population or else why generally vaccinate the population before? Even with third boosters we're seeing rapid mutations that break through so I'd assume gen pop would be in need of a fourth booster and fifth etc. to qualify for the protection to all members of society that general vaccination affords. This reads like obvious flip flopping that's a primarily economic decision.
- Dah00n 4y ago
  I'm guessing you are not from Denmark as you read it in a completely different way than I do as a Dane.
  - hagbarth 4y ago
    As a Dane, I have to agree with you. Generally I trust the health authorities to recommend the action they deem appropriate and nothing more.
  - emptysongglass 4y ago
    I am a Dane but I spent half my life in the US so often have a different perspective than most of my countrymen.
- eesmith 4y ago
  How is it "spin"? Public health is always intimately connected with questions of cost-effectiveness. Denmark also doesn't offer free influenza vaccinations to all adults. https://www.sst.dk/en/English/News/2022/Autumn-vaccinations-against-covid-19-and-influenza-are-to-help-us-through-the-winter https://www.sst.dk/en/English/News/2022/Autumn-vaccinations-... > We recommend influenza vaccination for everyone aged 65 and over as well as for persons with certain chronic diseases, children aged between 2 and 6, pregnant women in the second and third trimesters and staff in the healthcare and elderly care sector and selected parts of the social services sector. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_vaccine points out "Not all countries provide the [chickenpox] vaccine due to its cost."
- Mashimo 4y ago
  They offer it for 85+ year old people right now, soon to 50+ people. What happens in the future is still open. There is no spin. If you are young with 3 shots you have relative good chances against covid. Right now there are 6 people with covid in a intensive care unit and 0 on respirator in all of Denmark.
- cb14 4y ago
  It’s not about expense, it’s about safety and efficacy, the shots aren’t safe.

msylvest 4y ago

Denmark is still offering boosters - in a prioritized manner. First those aged 85+, second 50+, even below that if exposed by diseases. From what is written I would expect (third) general 50- boosters to occur during winter if needed.

mrweasel 4y ago

Most got their booster shots, but not as many as I thought or would like. 80% got the two shots, but only 61,7% got the booster. Both numbers are honestly MUCH lower than I'd expect. It's honestly not economical to keep up the high level of testing and vaccination, not if most don't really get that sick. People are also a lot better at staying home when sick, compared to earlier.

cb14 4y ago

It sets a good precedent, the shots aren’t safe or effective. Does everyone have amnesia about how these things were sold? They were supposed to stop the virus cold. So much for that. It’s a very good precedent. It wasn’t supposed to be an ongoing thing. The risk benefit just isn’t there except maybe for the most comorbid.