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I find this article conflated multiple things: 1) “family” blogs- this isn’t just a problem on patreon but also exists on YouTube, tiktok, etc. this is when yo

I find this article conflated multiple things: 1) “family” blogs- this isn’t just a problem on patreon but also exists on YouTube, tiktok, etc. this is when you can film your own children bathing or other settings and sell it as family friendly content. Yes, creepy men comment on these videos and it’s dubious about how or if the parents are exploiting their child— a much better coverage than this article is the Somewhere Under Neith podcast which explicitly explores how vulnerable parties are exploited and overlooked[1] (they also did a series on child marriage and where it is legal to marry children in the USA). 2) drawn or animated adult content - loli/shota shit, legal dependent on country, no actual children harmed here I think this article performs multiple leaps of logic and cites anonymous sources for its more serious allegations. For example it assumes an off handed anonymous glassdoor comment “if half the child porn allegations are true patreon is in trouble” to mean patreon as a company is aware of and endorses any child porn on its platform. It could instead just be someone who saw the same tiktok the article points to alleging child porn. (This isn’t to say there isn’t csam on patreon but I don’t think patreon is uniquely platforming csam based on these allegations. Unfortunately uploading videos of your own children in bathing suits and stuff without their consent is very legal and categorized as family friendly even.) 1. https://www.lastpodcastnetwork.com/some-place-under-neith/ https://www.lastpodcastnetwork.com/some-place-under-neith/

anthk 4y ago
1) Stop uploading crap publicly. 2) In a near future neuroscience will cure pedophilia and ,partially, psychopatic tendencies with artifical empathy generators in your skull.
- collegeburner 4y ago
  will they consent to this implant? doesn't seem likely. and if not are you really so sure about the ehics of forced medical procedures? seems wrong to me.
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    > will they consent to this implant? doesn't seem likely. and if not are you really so sure about the ehics of forced medical procedures? seems wrong to me. If an "implant" could influence anyone mind to the degree the GP is speculating, it could probably also influence them to desire the implant and strongly reject the idea of its removal, which raises interesting questions.
- api 4y ago
  > 2) In a near future neuroscience will cure pedophilia and ,partially, psychopatic tendencies with artifical empathy generators in your skull. This will be the first application of so-called "desire engineering": the elimination of desires that people do not desire to desire. From there though the implications get... interesting. What happens when you can also add or tweak desires? What do you want to want? What do you want to want to want? Raises a lot of philosophical questions, some of which may be troubling.
  - anthk 4y ago
    They are troubling now. Is it a criminal accountable for its acts, or the determinism due to the unstoppable chemical connections making its braincommit the crime?
- ohCh6zos 4y ago
  That sounds dystopian
adultSwim 4y ago
What I can see with my own eyes is unacceptable. I can question the blog post and videos but the links they provide are plain as day. Making money off of sexualized images of children is wrong.
BuleBule 4y ago
Hey there, this my article you are discussing. I can tell you that I have discovered HUNDREDS of allegations going back a decade. I found two different glass door posts from a couple of years ago talking about child porn, hundreds of Trustpilot reviews from Patreon users saying that they have reported CP and been ignored, in many cases those reporting CP had their accounts suspended. I have spoken to a number of people who have told me that they have repeatedly tried to report what look like organised CP rings on Patreon, only to be ignored time and time again. Social media is littered with complains about this going back years, allegations are EVERYWHERE. There is very clearly a serious problem over at Patreon, and I have been told it is because internally they have a policy of not taking action against creators unless law enforcement or a court order is involved.
archduck 4y ago
> I think this article performs multiple leaps of logic and cites anonymous sources for its more serious allegations. For example it assumes an off handed anonymous glassdoor comment “if half the child porn allegations are true patreon is in trouble” to mean patreon as a company is aware of and endorses any child porn on its platform. It could instead just be someone who saw the same tiktok the article points to alleging child porn. ...and you just made it clear exactly at what point you stopped reading the article.

anthk 4y ago

1) Stop uploading crap publicly. 2) In a near future neuroscience will cure pedophilia and ,partially, psychopatic tendencies with artifical empathy generators in your skull.

collegeburner 4y ago
will they consent to this implant? doesn't seem likely. and if not are you really so sure about the ehics of forced medical procedures? seems wrong to me.
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > will they consent to this implant? doesn't seem likely. and if not are you really so sure about the ehics of forced medical procedures? seems wrong to me. If an "implant" could influence anyone mind to the degree the GP is speculating, it could probably also influence them to desire the implant and strongly reject the idea of its removal, which raises interesting questions.
api 4y ago
> 2) In a near future neuroscience will cure pedophilia and ,partially, psychopatic tendencies with artifical empathy generators in your skull. This will be the first application of so-called "desire engineering": the elimination of desires that people do not desire to desire. From there though the implications get... interesting. What happens when you can also add or tweak desires? What do you want to want? What do you want to want to want? Raises a lot of philosophical questions, some of which may be troubling.
- anthk 4y ago
  They are troubling now. Is it a criminal accountable for its acts, or the determinism due to the unstoppable chemical connections making its braincommit the crime?
ohCh6zos 4y ago
That sounds dystopian

adultSwim 4y ago

What I can see with my own eyes is unacceptable. I can question the blog post and videos but the links they provide are plain as day. Making money off of sexualized images of children is wrong.

BuleBule 4y ago

Hey there, this my article you are discussing. I can tell you that I have discovered HUNDREDS of allegations going back a decade. I found two different glass door posts from a couple of years ago talking about child porn, hundreds of Trustpilot reviews from Patreon users saying that they have reported CP and been ignored, in many cases those reporting CP had their accounts suspended. I have spoken to a number of people who have told me that they have repeatedly tried to report what look like organised CP rings on Patreon, only to be ignored time and time again. Social media is littered with complains about this going back years, allegations are EVERYWHERE. There is very clearly a serious problem over at Patreon, and I have been told it is because internally they have a policy of not taking action against creators unless law enforcement or a court order is involved.

archduck 4y ago

> I think this article performs multiple leaps of logic and cites anonymous sources for its more serious allegations. For example it assumes an off handed anonymous glassdoor comment “if half the child porn allegations are true patreon is in trouble” to mean patreon as a company is aware of and endorses any child porn on its platform. It could instead just be someone who saw the same tiktok the article points to alleging child porn. ...and you just made it clear exactly at what point you stopped reading the article.