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Lisp is more trendy than Rust?

12 points by rawoke083600 4y ago

rawoke083600 4y ago
I should mention, i thinked i messed up with the url, if you enter rust,lisp you will see the uptick ís higher for Lisp than rust. In real world terms rust might have more count of post, but rate-of-change is higher for LISP.
bitwize 4y ago
"The hobby involves Lisp, whose evangelists are so ancient and terrifying that the Rust Evangelism Strike Force declares the entire comment thread a no-fly zone and produces new maps marking the area as lost territory, impenetrable to the faithful." --n-gate back in the day Lisp probably is more trendy than Rust. It's perennially trendy to gush about Lisp. But trendiness is no measure of suitability to task.
rawoke083600 4y ago
I like LISP, Clojure, Go, PHP,Star Trek > Star Wars and Bash for deployment script. With that in mind, even though we "feel" like there are a gazillion Rust post. It seems in recent times there are MORE LISP posts than RUST ? Ok HN, I'm ready for your cult-believes and religious arguments :D PS. I'm not saying one is better than the other (although I have my fav) I am saying that it seems LISP gets more time on HN frontpage.
tmtvl 4y ago
Showing "rust" at 0.82% and "lisp" at 0.35% for me... Not to mention that HN is uniquely interested in Lisp through PG.
- sph 4y ago
  > HN is uniquely interested in Lisp through PG Not any more. I'm certain there's posters in here that do not even know who Paul Graham is, especially since he doesn't post regularly any more. The legend of Lisp is being spread mostly by the older of us and the lucky few that got bit by the Emacs bug. https://xkcd.com/297/ https://xkcd.com/297/
  - hiptobecubic 4y ago
    I do honestly prefer using vim over emacs for a bunch of reasons, but I wish it was configured with lisp instead. Emacs seems like a fun playground.
a_bonobo 4y ago
Is it? I don't see that difference. Rust has 0.82% front page, Lisp has 0.35% of the front page. https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=lisp%2C+rust&f=title&s=text&m=frac_items&t=year https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=...
- crabbygrabby 4y ago
  Ok good I'm not insane lol...
- PurpleRamen 4y ago
  The title is clickbait. It's phrased as a question, not a statement. But it animates people to visit the link and thinking about the question.
  - thejammahimself 4y ago
    To be honest I was expecting to read an article about the popularity of Lisp, and how it compares to Rust.
crabbygrabby 4y ago
Whoever made this post um didn't type in lisp and rust into the search... They look inversely correlated with rust rising in the past few years over lisp...
wodenokoto 4y ago
The linked page shows a graph between Twitter and Facebook. Can we change title or change link?
- crabbygrabby 4y ago
  Just type it in yourself and discover the post is incorrect like the rest of us...
- PurpleRamen 4y ago
  The site is using random pairings on each visit, if no pairing is given. I got nvidia vs amd just now.
- tony-allan 4y ago
  https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=lisp%2C+rust&f=title&s=text&m=frac_items&t=year https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=...
LAC-Tech 4y ago
cmrdporcupine 4y ago
I'll take either. Why not both?
sondr3 4y ago
Betteridge's law of headlines declares the answer to be "no"; lo and behold, the answer is indeed no.
orwin 4y ago
It's not, and anyway lisp is not only a language but a category in which you can put the racket, closure and probably other. Also for the lisp fans here: I'm working on bank data with python since March 2021. My app was deployed in the last month, and a new requirements appeared a week ago. The only way i found to satisfy this requirement and to keep it scalable (aka the code stay generic, only the configuration file change when it's used by new application) is to basically transform json into a pseudo-lisp without symbols and with a really, really long composition chain. I have to basically write a small lisp compiler. I was gonna end this mission but this became fun again.
quickthrower2 4y ago
I would Betteridge the answer is no.

12 points by rawoke083600 4y ago

I should mention, i thinked i messed up with the url, if you enter rust,lisp you will see the uptick ís higher for Lisp than rust. In real world terms rust might have more count of post, but rate-of-change is higher for LISP.

bitwize 4y ago

"The hobby involves Lisp, whose evangelists are so ancient and terrifying that the Rust Evangelism Strike Force declares the entire comment thread a no-fly zone and produces new maps marking the area as lost territory, impenetrable to the faithful." --n-gate back in the day Lisp probably is more trendy than Rust. It's perennially trendy to gush about Lisp. But trendiness is no measure of suitability to task.

rawoke083600 4y ago

I like LISP, Clojure, Go, PHP,Star Trek > Star Wars and Bash for deployment script. With that in mind, even though we "feel" like there are a gazillion Rust post. It seems in recent times there are MORE LISP posts than RUST ? Ok HN, I'm ready for your cult-believes and religious arguments :D PS. I'm not saying one is better than the other (although I have my fav) I am saying that it seems LISP gets more time on HN frontpage.

tmtvl 4y ago

Showing "rust" at 0.82% and "lisp" at 0.35% for me... Not to mention that HN is uniquely interested in Lisp through PG.

sph 4y ago
> HN is uniquely interested in Lisp through PG Not any more. I'm certain there's posters in here that do not even know who Paul Graham is, especially since he doesn't post regularly any more. The legend of Lisp is being spread mostly by the older of us and the lucky few that got bit by the Emacs bug. https://xkcd.com/297/ https://xkcd.com/297/
- hiptobecubic 4y ago
  I do honestly prefer using vim over emacs for a bunch of reasons, but I wish it was configured with lisp instead. Emacs seems like a fun playground.

a_bonobo 4y ago

Is it? I don't see that difference. Rust has 0.82% front page, Lisp has 0.35% of the front page. https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=lisp%2C+rust&f=title&s=text&m=frac_items&t=year https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=...

crabbygrabby 4y ago
Ok good I'm not insane lol...
PurpleRamen 4y ago
The title is clickbait. It's phrased as a question, not a statement. But it animates people to visit the link and thinking about the question.
- thejammahimself 4y ago
  To be honest I was expecting to read an article about the popularity of Lisp, and how it compares to Rust.

crabbygrabby 4y ago

Whoever made this post um didn't type in lisp and rust into the search... They look inversely correlated with rust rising in the past few years over lisp...

wodenokoto 4y ago

The linked page shows a graph between Twitter and Facebook. Can we change title or change link?

crabbygrabby 4y ago
Just type it in yourself and discover the post is incorrect like the rest of us...
PurpleRamen 4y ago
The site is using random pairings on each visit, if no pairing is given. I got nvidia vs amd just now.
tony-allan 4y ago
https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=lisp%2C+rust&f=title&s=text&m=frac_items&t=year https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/hacker-news-trends/?q=...

LAC-Tech 4y ago

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

I'll take either. Why not both?

sondr3 4y ago

Betteridge's law of headlines declares the answer to be "no"; lo and behold, the answer is indeed no.

orwin 4y ago

It's not, and anyway lisp is not only a language but a category in which you can put the racket, closure and probably other. Also for the lisp fans here: I'm working on bank data with python since March 2021. My app was deployed in the last month, and a new requirements appeared a week ago. The only way i found to satisfy this requirement and to keep it scalable (aka the code stay generic, only the configuration file change when it's used by new application) is to basically transform json into a pseudo-lisp without symbols and with a really, really long composition chain. I have to basically write a small lisp compiler. I was gonna end this mission but this became fun again.

quickthrower2 4y ago

I would Betteridge the answer is no.