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What exactly is your point, that these tipping points don't exist and we will never reach them? This is an extremely complex system and it's hard to predict. Th

What exactly is your point, that these tipping points don't exist and we will never reach them? This is an extremely complex system and it's hard to predict. The fact is we're trending towards these things, not away from them. That's undebatable. So what message are you trying to convey exactly, that everything is fine and this is just scaremongering nonsense?

canoebuilder 4y ago
On net, yes things are fine. Look up Alex Epstein, he makes the point that the benefits humans gain from fossil fuels far outweigh the cons. What is it we are trending towards? That we will make the sky gods really angry and the earth will go up in a blazing inferno? I don’t think that will happen anytime soon.
- biorach 4y ago
  Ice sheets collapse raising sea levels and flooding the coastal cities in which a significant proportion of the world's population lives causing massive economic and human displacement and suffering. Warming makes the current world breadbaskets (e.g. Russia, Ukraine, USA mid-west) unsuitable for grain with no replacement available causing world famine. That's just a start. It's a long list.
  - johnnymorgan 4y ago
    None of what you said is even remotely true.
    - imtringued 4y ago
      Why is it not true and how is it not true?
collyw 4y ago
So you admit these things are hard to predict, yet we are running with the wild predictions anyway? Models are just a hypothesis and in no way proven. There were plenty of predictions to date that haven't come true. I see these as none other than wild speculation. https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-national-parks-gone-by-2020-signs/ https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-na...
- solumunus 4y ago
  What?! No, we're absolutely not running with these wild predictions and I've got no idea what's making you think we are. If we were taking those predictions seriously then far more drastic action would be underway.

canoebuilder 4y ago

On net, yes things are fine. Look up Alex Epstein, he makes the point that the benefits humans gain from fossil fuels far outweigh the cons. What is it we are trending towards? That we will make the sky gods really angry and the earth will go up in a blazing inferno? I don’t think that will happen anytime soon.

biorach 4y ago
Ice sheets collapse raising sea levels and flooding the coastal cities in which a significant proportion of the world's population lives causing massive economic and human displacement and suffering. Warming makes the current world breadbaskets (e.g. Russia, Ukraine, USA mid-west) unsuitable for grain with no replacement available causing world famine. That's just a start. It's a long list.
- johnnymorgan 4y ago
  None of what you said is even remotely true.
  - imtringued 4y ago
    Why is it not true and how is it not true?

collyw 4y ago

So you admit these things are hard to predict, yet we are running with the wild predictions anyway? Models are just a hypothesis and in no way proven. There were plenty of predictions to date that haven't come true. I see these as none other than wild speculation. https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-national-parks-gone-by-2020-signs/ https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-na...

solumunus 4y ago
What?! No, we're absolutely not running with these wild predictions and I've got no idea what's making you think we are. If we were taking those predictions seriously then far more drastic action would be underway.