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I wonder if the banks are getting cold feet and pushing PR articles about how "kids this days" should get off their behinds and learn COBOL because "someone nee

I wonder if the banks are getting cold feet and pushing PR articles about how "kids this days" should get off their behinds and learn COBOL because "someone needs to work on this mess and we can't find anyone" Yeah, no thanks.

nix23 4y ago
Why not? Good salary, no stress, nearly never deadlines, working with massive mainframes, no hw failures, no OS failures, and in bank/insurance pretty good bonuse's...but hey maybe you like systems like borg/kubernetes where everything is build on cheap stuff and your deployment is like a babylonian tower build on unstable ground.
- raverbashing 4y ago
  I leave the propaganda to those who believe in it > working with massive mainframes This is the kind of vapid marketing nugget that doesn't impress anyone that doesn't suffer from oxygen deprivation due to neck decorations. Why in tarnation should I care for overpriced obsolete technology? Do you see Google or FB investing in this? No? Ok then > where everything is build on cheap stuff pulled straight out of the IBM sales book I see I won't touch anything that came out of those 3 letters
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  - nix23 4y ago
    >Do you see Google or FB investing in this? No? Ok then As if AD-Company's are any measurement for innovation, you could have said Oxide or hell even Amazon...but NOOO you take the lamest two Firm's out of the "FAANG"-Gang. You obviously never worked with mainframes....that's sad.
  - sophacles 4y ago
    This strikes me as just as much propaganda. I mean if it's so obsolete, why are "modern" server manufacturers still touting new features that have been in the IBM mainframes for decades?
- SamuelAdams 4y ago
  Good salary is subjective. Tell me when these banks start paying 150-200k and I’ll consider it. Most offerings I’ve seen is between 75-90k. Also there is no career growth with COBOL. Its a dead language. Learning it is as useful as learning a proprietary tool that is only used at one company. You’d be better off learning React, Rust, or some other language that can apply to several different companies.
  - nix23 4y ago
    >Good salary is subjective. Tell me when these banks start paying 150-200k Living just in Switzerland (remember 3rd world country), 150-200k is not just a good but really good salary, but maybe i should move to San Francisco to learn what a good salary is...maybe i am ignorant to think that someone with 100k has a good salary, but who knows.
  - JTbane 4y ago
    Not only is there no career growth, you don't get to implement new features at all. Ancient software maintenance is soul-crushing, on a good day nothing happens, on a bad day you might have to do hours of digging to find the source of an error.
    - nix23 4y ago
      >on a good day nothing happens, on a bad day you might have to do hours of digging to find the source of an error. That sounds exactly like modern software-stacks ;)
  - Melatonic 4y ago
    Some places do indeed pay that much

nix23 4y ago

Why not? Good salary, no stress, nearly never deadlines, working with massive mainframes, no hw failures, no OS failures, and in bank/insurance pretty good bonuse's...but hey maybe you like systems like borg/kubernetes where everything is build on cheap stuff and your deployment is like a babylonian tower build on unstable ground.

raverbashing 4y ago
I leave the propaganda to those who believe in it > working with massive mainframes This is the kind of vapid marketing nugget that doesn't impress anyone that doesn't suffer from oxygen deprivation due to neck decorations. Why in tarnation should I care for overpriced obsolete technology? Do you see Google or FB investing in this? No? Ok then > where everything is build on cheap stuff pulled straight out of the IBM sales book I see I won't touch anything that came out of those 3 letters
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- nix23 4y ago
  >Do you see Google or FB investing in this? No? Ok then As if AD-Company's are any measurement for innovation, you could have said Oxide or hell even Amazon...but NOOO you take the lamest two Firm's out of the "FAANG"-Gang. You obviously never worked with mainframes....that's sad.
- sophacles 4y ago
  This strikes me as just as much propaganda. I mean if it's so obsolete, why are "modern" server manufacturers still touting new features that have been in the IBM mainframes for decades?
SamuelAdams 4y ago
Good salary is subjective. Tell me when these banks start paying 150-200k and I’ll consider it. Most offerings I’ve seen is between 75-90k. Also there is no career growth with COBOL. Its a dead language. Learning it is as useful as learning a proprietary tool that is only used at one company. You’d be better off learning React, Rust, or some other language that can apply to several different companies.
- nix23 4y ago
  >Good salary is subjective. Tell me when these banks start paying 150-200k Living just in Switzerland (remember 3rd world country), 150-200k is not just a good but really good salary, but maybe i should move to San Francisco to learn what a good salary is...maybe i am ignorant to think that someone with 100k has a good salary, but who knows.
- JTbane 4y ago
  Not only is there no career growth, you don't get to implement new features at all. Ancient software maintenance is soul-crushing, on a good day nothing happens, on a bad day you might have to do hours of digging to find the source of an error.
  - nix23 4y ago
    >on a good day nothing happens, on a bad day you might have to do hours of digging to find the source of an error. That sounds exactly like modern software-stacks ;)
- Melatonic 4y ago
  Some places do indeed pay that much