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Driving high and drunk are idiotic to equate. Not saying you can't be impaired high, but people can also drive after a joint better than anyone after equivalent

Driving high and drunk are idiotic to equate. Not saying you can't be impaired high, but people can also drive after a joint better than anyone after equivalent alcohol intoxication. This smells like teetotaling more than evidence-based discourse.

yucky 4y ago
This is an interesting claim, or I'm reading it wrong. Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? Somewhat related, but I'm still curious how they test marijuana intoxication level in drivers. Is there an equivalent BAC-type test, especially considering how long weed stays in the system?
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? No, "equivalent" here is general-purpose intoxication, not something calibrated to driving. Since the effects are so different, we should expect significantly different levels of driving impairment to be likely.
  - yucky 4y ago
    What is this based on?
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      That the drugs work in very different ways so we shouldn't assume they have the same intoxication profile? I feel like that's basic knowledge. For where I say we're looking at general purpose vs. driving-specific, that just seems to me like the most reasonable statement they would have been making.
      - yucky 4y ago
        I think the confusion might lie in the use of your term "equivalent intoxication" then. Especially when you then mentioned their different intoxication profiles. How exactly would you define equivalent intoxication levels in something with different intoxication profiles?
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        Not my term, but some kind of test might make sense, or the average of several things. I mean, how do you define intoxication levels at all? You can't just, like, measure reaction time and say you're done.
        yucky 4y ago
        Yeah it's not easy with alcohol either. Many people have almost no impact on their cognitive abilities or reaction times with a BAC of .08, while others could be legal to drive with a .06 but shouldn't be.

yucky 4y ago

This is an interesting claim, or I'm reading it wrong. Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? Somewhat related, but I'm still curious how they test marijuana intoxication level in drivers. Is there an equivalent BAC-type test, especially considering how long weed stays in the system?

Dylan16807 4y ago
> Wouldn't "equivalent intoxication" mean the driver in both cases equally shouldn't be behind the wheel? No, "equivalent" here is general-purpose intoxication, not something calibrated to driving. Since the effects are so different, we should expect significantly different levels of driving impairment to be likely.
- yucky 4y ago
  What is this based on?
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    That the drugs work in very different ways so we shouldn't assume they have the same intoxication profile? I feel like that's basic knowledge. For where I say we're looking at general purpose vs. driving-specific, that just seems to me like the most reasonable statement they would have been making.
    - yucky 4y ago
      I think the confusion might lie in the use of your term "equivalent intoxication" then. Especially when you then mentioned their different intoxication profiles. How exactly would you define equivalent intoxication levels in something with different intoxication profiles?
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        Not my term, but some kind of test might make sense, or the average of several things. I mean, how do you define intoxication levels at all? You can't just, like, measure reaction time and say you're done.
        yucky 4y ago
        Yeah it's not easy with alcohol either. Many people have almost no impact on their cognitive abilities or reaction times with a BAC of .08, while others could be legal to drive with a .06 but shouldn't be.