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Oh so more contradictory nutrition and food wankery. There has been a concerted effort to push this narrative for a while, even before all the "studies". Why d

Oh so more contradictory nutrition and food wankery. There has been a concerted effort to push this narrative for a while, even before all the "studies". Why don't they ever bother to look into the specifics of what is eaten, not just amounts. Or control for the fact that people eating vegan and veg only, in many cases are much younger health obsessed types to begin with. Who exercise etc. Not to mention looking at the full affects on overall health. Nobody seems able to explain why an omnivore species would suddenly have a problem with meat. In the end though, these types of studies always seem to miss or ignore the wider points as well as the full reality of things. We shouldn't be pushing people to endanger their health in order to potentially negligibly lower some rare cancer risks.

hombre_fatal 4y ago
This comment reads 100% that you’re just reacting to something that you don’t want to be true with sweeping dismissals rather than replying to the specifics of the research. Almost seems like your response to research is to invoke personal superstitions about what must be true.
- rtev 4y ago
  Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm for people with diet. For some reason, personal food choice and health ideology seems to fall into the same category as religion and politics.
seizethecheese 4y ago
Care to address the methods section? Are you sure they didn’t control for age and physical activity? Why would this only affect cancers if the digestive system?
drekk 4y ago
Omnivore species? You sure about that one? We're opportunists. Don't believe me? Go ahead, rip into some meat raw with your "canines" and let me know how that one goes. Our ancestors ate bone marrow because it was the only thing other scavengers didn't know about. We transcend our biology all the time, but I wouldn't point to our modern and obscene meat consumption as a historical constant. Most peasants didn't get the luxury.
- netmonk 4y ago
  Most peasant died early because of lake of animal food. Reading forgotten book from 18th or 18th century about diet and commoner is full a disease very specific related to their diet, for instance one common disease is pellagre. Mass démocratisation of meat by end of 19th century to increase meat intake for lower class citizen is highly correlated with increased life expectancy and disappearance of numerous disease.
- ralfd 4y ago
  It will go fine? We can digest raw meat and it is common in many cuisines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_meat There is a risk because of parasites/bacteria and I guess inventing fire was not a major milestone for nothing. But if you are in the Stone Age and don’t eat animal (organs) and don’t luck into a plant based Vitamin B12 source, you will fare worse.
- pragmatic 4y ago
  It goes fine. Look up Tiger Meat. Raw steak ground with onions Worcestershire sauce etc. We are it every Saturday at bars /restaurants. See also steak tartare, sushi etc. As a child I remember some old dudes eating fresh smelt right out of the river on smelting runs (catching large numbers of the small fish for freezing for bait etc)

hombre_fatal 4y ago

This comment reads 100% that you’re just reacting to something that you don’t want to be true with sweeping dismissals rather than replying to the specifics of the research. Almost seems like your response to research is to invoke personal superstitions about what must be true.

rtev 4y ago
Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm for people with diet. For some reason, personal food choice and health ideology seems to fall into the same category as religion and politics.

seizethecheese 4y ago

Care to address the methods section? Are you sure they didn’t control for age and physical activity? Why would this only affect cancers if the digestive system?

drekk 4y ago

Omnivore species? You sure about that one? We're opportunists. Don't believe me? Go ahead, rip into some meat raw with your "canines" and let me know how that one goes. Our ancestors ate bone marrow because it was the only thing other scavengers didn't know about. We transcend our biology all the time, but I wouldn't point to our modern and obscene meat consumption as a historical constant. Most peasants didn't get the luxury.

netmonk 4y ago
Most peasant died early because of lake of animal food. Reading forgotten book from 18th or 18th century about diet and commoner is full a disease very specific related to their diet, for instance one common disease is pellagre. Mass démocratisation of meat by end of 19th century to increase meat intake for lower class citizen is highly correlated with increased life expectancy and disappearance of numerous disease.
ralfd 4y ago
It will go fine? We can digest raw meat and it is common in many cuisines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_meat There is a risk because of parasites/bacteria and I guess inventing fire was not a major milestone for nothing. But if you are in the Stone Age and don’t eat animal (organs) and don’t luck into a plant based Vitamin B12 source, you will fare worse.
pragmatic 4y ago
It goes fine. Look up Tiger Meat. Raw steak ground with onions Worcestershire sauce etc. We are it every Saturday at bars /restaurants. See also steak tartare, sushi etc. As a child I remember some old dudes eating fresh smelt right out of the river on smelting runs (catching large numbers of the small fish for freezing for bait etc)