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> Should one live in a high tax high social safety net country while paying tax to a low tax low social safety net country or not paying tax at all? My friend,
by fennecfoxen 4y ago
> Should one live in a high tax high social safety net country while paying tax to a low tax low social safety net country or not paying tax at all?
My friend, if these systems were just about aligning the incentives for workers and benefits and taxes, and otherwise tried to be understanding about human foibles, then people wouldn't point to immigration systems around the world as a Kafkaesque nightmare.
Just to pick an example — chosen for my familiarity, wholly outside of and unrelated to Brexit — the UK's Windrush scandal involved the bureaucracy actively destroying old records of immigration from British overseas possessions (particularly the Caribbean), then deciding years later to go after people who had been living in the country for decades — demanding they supply exhaustive documentation of their legal immigration, and their life and activities in the intervening time. Rest assured that this was a fully adversarial process! They did not offer to help anyone so affected gather these documents, or to make their case.
And later, in another unrelated scandal, the Home Office decided to react to an English-examination cheating scandal by analyzing everyone's examination results with some opaque computerized process, using the results to declare something like 97% of them as invalid cheaters — and sending nastygrams to about 9,700 university students, calling them dirty cheaters and demanding they leave country. Many of them did, and they forcibly removed others. Notably, they did not ask for them to re-sit the exam. They did not care about the lives ruined.
Of course the matter of the .eu domain is absolutely nothing compared to the daily nightmare that is "visas," but the same devotion to rules and insensitivity to the costs of policy runs through the matter. They could have grandfathered in existing domains, at least a little bit longer. I know that if I had a website and I had to move domains, I would want to run web and email forwarding for more than one year. If they wanted to be particular about just having the forwarding, they could have audited the sites to make sure that they were just redirects, and charged for the privilege. They didn't. There's no sane reason that couldn't happen except to preserve The Rules — but these rules simply are not a valuable end in and of themselves, despite the laud and honor they have received in this thread.
- brnt 4y agoThe Britisch delegation insisted on a hard Brexit time after time. It's what they got. Just like how EU residents who move outside of the EU lose the right to a .EU, the Brits did too.
- fennecfoxen 4y agoAaaaand we're back to the "serves-them-right" lowkey spiteful angle. I don't know, if I were a member in good standing of some Institution(TM) that is supposed to look out for me and work for my interests, and my government decided one day to throw me under the bus, I'd prefer the Institution(TM) didn't try its utmost to pitch in and throw me under the bus too. I hope you never face a similar problem in your life.
- brnt 4y agoIt's not spiteful serves them right, it is what hard Brexit means, what was asked for.
- staticman2 4y agoThe eligibity rules to be a member of the institutions existed before Brexit. Funny how applying the eligibility the rules to you as they do to everyone else in the world who is not a member of the EU is seen as spiteful by you.
- fennecfoxen 4y agoYou know what, sir? You've convinced me. You're right. There's not any special spite in Europe's motiviations. It's just like that. Its a way of being, and its people are statists who like it being like that. So I wish you all the best of luck as your continent, now deprived of the economic impulse of cheap Russian gas, discovers the true weight of its overbearing and inflexible regulatory state, and deindustrializes with a scale and speed never seen before in human history (already ArcelorMittal is importing iron from the US rust belt, of all places!!!). And I'm actually, legitimately, genuinely sorry for everything the populist backlash is going to do as things fall apart, because I expect it to be very ugly.
- staticman2 4y agoI don't think you are making a prediction so much as screaming "A plague on your house for not making special rules that favor me." Good day.