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Definitely disagree with don't talk money. It's an outdated stigma that only benefits the employer and leads to people getting significantly underpaid and/or ta

Definitely disagree with don't talk money. It's an outdated stigma that only benefits the employer and leads to people getting significantly underpaid and/or taken advantage of.

hunterb123 4y ago
People work at different levels and competency. If you're amongst friends sure, but it doesn't usually lead to good vibes talking money amongst coworkers. Go ahead, but don't be surprised if you cause rifts. Glassdoor is a click away and anonymous, no need to bring money into personal conversations and compare dick sizes. -- edit @rexpop -- > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. You don't think good vibes is a healthy goal? I would strive for good vibes in the workplace. Your coworkers would appreciate a peaceful work environment. Your political or religious debate is not that important, wait for the bar with your friends.
- rexpop 4y ago
  I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. Ok, elaborate why not
    - rexpop 4y ago
      Because life is fraught with real peril, and high stakes projects that we, as adults, are burdened to tackle. "Good vibes" is nice for the holidays, but it can't be cultivated nonstop. The "bad vibes" must be dealt with—piecemeal, or in catastrophe.
      - hunterb123 4y ago
        Please don't stress your coworkers with more shit. Talk amongst your friends with your woes.
        shrimp_emoji 4y ago
        Amongst my whom???
nishs 4y ago
i've always had the feeling that it's been way more stigmatic to talk about money* than about politics or religion at work. politics and religion were welcome conversations. *by money, i mean things you bought with your money or what you're doing with your money. salaries, depending on who you're around, was also easy conversation.
derefr 4y ago
"Talk money" can mean "talk compensation", but it can also mean "talk relative wealth and socioeconomic privilege." It's the latter thing that's a bad idea. Imagine having grown up in poverty, having self-taught and bootstrapped your way into your white-collar job to have a better life than your parents; and then your coworker turns out to be a trust-fund baby who's doing this for fun. Things can get awkward quickly. If the idea that this could be a problem has never even occurred to you, that's probably because you've been working for companies that have tightly constrained the socioeconomic class range of their hires so that everyone is around the same. This is most of what HR departments mean by "culture fit."
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  As someone who was homeless as a teenager, it would never bother me that a co-worker grew up rich. Now, I might attribute some of their attitudes to how they grew up, but it wouldn't affect my ability to deal with them on a day to day basis.

Definitely disagree with don't talk money. It's an outdated stigma that only benefits the employer and leads to people getting significantly underpaid and/or taken advantage of.

hunterb123 4y ago

People work at different levels and competency. If you're amongst friends sure, but it doesn't usually lead to good vibes talking money amongst coworkers. Go ahead, but don't be surprised if you cause rifts. Glassdoor is a click away and anonymous, no need to bring money into personal conversations and compare dick sizes. -- edit @rexpop -- > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. You don't think good vibes is a healthy goal? I would strive for good vibes in the workplace. Your coworkers would appreciate a peaceful work environment. Your political or religious debate is not that important, wait for the bar with your friends.

rexpop 4y ago
I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. Ok, elaborate why not
  - rexpop 4y ago
    Because life is fraught with real peril, and high stakes projects that we, as adults, are burdened to tackle. "Good vibes" is nice for the holidays, but it can't be cultivated nonstop. The "bad vibes" must be dealt with—piecemeal, or in catastrophe.
    - hunterb123 4y ago
      Please don't stress your coworkers with more shit. Talk amongst your friends with your woes.
      - shrimp_emoji 4y ago
        Amongst my whom???

nishs 4y ago

i've always had the feeling that it's been way more stigmatic to talk about money* than about politics or religion at work. politics and religion were welcome conversations. *by money, i mean things you bought with your money or what you're doing with your money. salaries, depending on who you're around, was also easy conversation.

derefr 4y ago

"Talk money" can mean "talk compensation", but it can also mean "talk relative wealth and socioeconomic privilege." It's the latter thing that's a bad idea. Imagine having grown up in poverty, having self-taught and bootstrapped your way into your white-collar job to have a better life than your parents; and then your coworker turns out to be a trust-fund baby who's doing this for fun. Things can get awkward quickly. If the idea that this could be a problem has never even occurred to you, that's probably because you've been working for companies that have tightly constrained the socioeconomic class range of their hires so that everyone is around the same. This is most of what HR departments mean by "culture fit."

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
As someone who was homeless as a teenager, it would never bother me that a co-worker grew up rich. Now, I might attribute some of their attitudes to how they grew up, but it wouldn't affect my ability to deal with them on a day to day basis.