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Don't talk money, politics, or religion. It's basic etiquette.

Enginerrrd 4y ago
To strangers, and in the most formal contexts... MAYBE, but teams of coworkers are most effective when more traditional human bonds form between them and that won't happen without being somewhat informal with them.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  Working is one of the most formal contexts. Politics and the workplace don't mix. Don't be that annoying activist bothering your coworkers and making people feel uncomfortable with incoherent political rants. -- edit @ cutemonster -- > GP mentions how to create a more trusting and closely bonded team Yes my counter is that you aren't bonding, you're most likely isolating others. You can rarely change someone's core religious or political beliefs, especially with the weak arguments of today. The workplace is not a place to try to do so. Talk politics with your friends, not with your coworkers, they are too nice to say they don't want to hear it. -- edit @ blowski -- > Quite a lot of overgeneralisation there I'm not generalizing, I'm saying if you're amongst friends and know they're okay with talking politics go ahead. If you're amongst coworkers and don't know then shut your mouth so we can all work in peace. > In some cultures your comment woud be 100% true, but in others, your refusal to discuss such topics would look aloof. Oh, which cultures? That's kind of my point though, don't force people to talk politics. They shouldn't have to worry about their refusal to discuss a topic or looking "aloof".
  - cutemonster 4y ago
    GP mentions how to create a more trusting and closely bonded team, and you reply "annoying activist bothering your coworkers"?
  - blowski 4y ago
    Quite a lot of overgeneralisation there, I suspect you're projecting your own personal preferences onto everyone else. In some cultures your comment woud be 100% true, but in others, your refusal to discuss such topics would look aloof. Choose to work in a culture you like, rather than trying to impose a culture you like on one you don't.
  - gherkinnn 4y ago
    You imply that any political discussion is activism. That is nonsense. And not all political topics are divisive. And it’s fine to disagree and move on. It really isn’t that hard.
- junofan 4y ago
  I really don’t care to know which set of political consultants have managed to dupe my coworkers.
- zenrex 4y ago
  I think that it's natural to create a strong interpersonal relationships between people in a more familiar environments.The pressures of a deadline can bring out the short fuses and some passion for the product. Leave working in the workplace; you'll both know that there's nothing wrong with happy hour.
Pasorrijer 4y ago
Definitely disagree with don't talk money. It's an outdated stigma that only benefits the employer and leads to people getting significantly underpaid and/or taken advantage of.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  People work at different levels and competency. If you're amongst friends sure, but it doesn't usually lead to good vibes talking money amongst coworkers. Go ahead, but don't be surprised if you cause rifts. Glassdoor is a click away and anonymous, no need to bring money into personal conversations and compare dick sizes. -- edit @rexpop -- > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. You don't think good vibes is a healthy goal? I would strive for good vibes in the workplace. Your coworkers would appreciate a peaceful work environment. Your political or religious debate is not that important, wait for the bar with your friends.
  - rexpop 4y ago
    I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults.
    - hunterb123 4y ago
      > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. Ok, elaborate why not
      - rexpop 4y ago
        Because life is fraught with real peril, and high stakes projects that we, as adults, are burdened to tackle. "Good vibes" is nice for the holidays, but it can't be cultivated nonstop. The "bad vibes" must be dealt with—piecemeal, or in catastrophe.
        hunterb123 4y ago
        Please don't stress your coworkers with more shit. Talk amongst your friends with your woes.
djrobstep 4y ago
In other words “don’t start questioning the elites”
- vlunkr 4y ago
  I don’t know what that has to do with “the elites.” In my experience, discussing sensitive topics at work tends to bring out the people with the loudest and least nuanced opinions, and leaves everyone else feeling uncomfortable.
jen20 4y ago
If only the religious agreed.

To strangers, and in the most formal contexts... MAYBE, but teams of coworkers are most effective when more traditional human bonds form between them and that won't happen without being somewhat informal with them.

hunterb123 4y ago
Working is one of the most formal contexts. Politics and the workplace don't mix. Don't be that annoying activist bothering your coworkers and making people feel uncomfortable with incoherent political rants. -- edit @ cutemonster -- > GP mentions how to create a more trusting and closely bonded team Yes my counter is that you aren't bonding, you're most likely isolating others. You can rarely change someone's core religious or political beliefs, especially with the weak arguments of today. The workplace is not a place to try to do so. Talk politics with your friends, not with your coworkers, they are too nice to say they don't want to hear it. -- edit @ blowski -- > Quite a lot of overgeneralisation there I'm not generalizing, I'm saying if you're amongst friends and know they're okay with talking politics go ahead. If you're amongst coworkers and don't know then shut your mouth so we can all work in peace. > In some cultures your comment woud be 100% true, but in others, your refusal to discuss such topics would look aloof. Oh, which cultures? That's kind of my point though, don't force people to talk politics. They shouldn't have to worry about their refusal to discuss a topic or looking "aloof".
- cutemonster 4y ago
  GP mentions how to create a more trusting and closely bonded team, and you reply "annoying activist bothering your coworkers"?
- blowski 4y ago
  Quite a lot of overgeneralisation there, I suspect you're projecting your own personal preferences onto everyone else. In some cultures your comment woud be 100% true, but in others, your refusal to discuss such topics would look aloof. Choose to work in a culture you like, rather than trying to impose a culture you like on one you don't.
- gherkinnn 4y ago
  You imply that any political discussion is activism. That is nonsense. And not all political topics are divisive. And it’s fine to disagree and move on. It really isn’t that hard.
junofan 4y ago
I really don’t care to know which set of political consultants have managed to dupe my coworkers.
zenrex 4y ago
I think that it's natural to create a strong interpersonal relationships between people in a more familiar environments.The pressures of a deadline can bring out the short fuses and some passion for the product. Leave working in the workplace; you'll both know that there's nothing wrong with happy hour.

Pasorrijer 4y ago

Definitely disagree with don't talk money. It's an outdated stigma that only benefits the employer and leads to people getting significantly underpaid and/or taken advantage of.

hunterb123 4y ago
People work at different levels and competency. If you're amongst friends sure, but it doesn't usually lead to good vibes talking money amongst coworkers. Go ahead, but don't be surprised if you cause rifts. Glassdoor is a click away and anonymous, no need to bring money into personal conversations and compare dick sizes. -- edit @rexpop -- > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. You don't think good vibes is a healthy goal? I would strive for good vibes in the workplace. Your coworkers would appreciate a peaceful work environment. Your political or religious debate is not that important, wait for the bar with your friends.
- rexpop 4y ago
  I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    > I am not sure "good vibes" is a healthy super-ordinate goal among adults. Ok, elaborate why not
    - rexpop 4y ago
      Because life is fraught with real peril, and high stakes projects that we, as adults, are burdened to tackle. "Good vibes" is nice for the holidays, but it can't be cultivated nonstop. The "bad vibes" must be dealt with—piecemeal, or in catastrophe.
      - hunterb123 4y ago
        Please don't stress your coworkers with more shit. Talk amongst your friends with your woes.

djrobstep 4y ago

In other words “don’t start questioning the elites”

vlunkr 4y ago
I don’t know what that has to do with “the elites.” In my experience, discussing sensitive topics at work tends to bring out the people with the loudest and least nuanced opinions, and leaves everyone else feeling uncomfortable.

jen20 4y ago

If only the religious agreed.