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Moved my google workspace accounts to Zoho after they retracted the grandfathered free plans a few months ago. Really quite pleasantly surprised. They are defin

by zmmmmm 4y ago

Moved my google workspace accounts to Zoho after they retracted the grandfathered free plans a few months ago. Really quite pleasantly surprised. They are definitely a good option for people who want the same rough set of features. I am reassured to know that their business is real and not a ticking time bomb of the typical VC-funded customer acquisition growth-at-all costs operation.

silisili 4y ago
Same, and wish I had sooner. Really slick mobile app, and great spam detection.
sshine 4y ago
I moved one family member onto Zoho. It has been a very positive experience so far. You get an office system as part of the package. Some cases of the spam filter being too aggressive. I'd move myself if I wasn't so addicted to FastMail's beautiful web+mobile apps.
- devoutsalsa 4y ago
  I love Fastmail. Switched earlier this year & now I don't lose sleep about my email maybe getting canceled.
  - tenpies 4y ago
    I only have to keep an eye on what fresh authoritarian nightmares the Australian government is up to. Not the worst thing ever, but it does seem all Western jurisdictions are ticking time bombs, and thanks to Five Eyes you're at the discretion of the worst one.
    - zmmmmm 4y ago
      It's sad but this definitely was one of the factors (by far not the only one, probably not even the main one, however still significant) that dissuaded me from moving to FastMail.
      - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
        Care to elaborate other factors?
    - devoutsalsa 4y ago
      You’re not wrong. I have to assume that someone is able to access & read my email if I’m not hosting it myself in my own home on my own hardware. Trade offs…
      - pmontra 4y ago
        I sympathize with you. I'm not self hosting but I'm not using Gmail which is what most of the people I know or work with are using. And yet Google could read most of my mail by looking at the mailboxes of the people I'm exchanging mail with. And the company running the SMTP and POP3 servers I use could read all my messages. I guess you are as safe from snooping as I am.
    - Grimburger 4y ago
      > all Western jurisdictions are ticking time bombs I'd consider anything based in the EU to at least be a step above anywhere 5eyes. They at least make an effort towards data privacy.
- ZohoMailSupport 4y ago
  Hello, Glad to know about your liking towards Zoho and We strive to make it even better for you everyday. Regarding the Spam filter, we do have customisations available in Spam Control which can be set as your prefer for your account/Organisation. Hence, it would be of much help if you could share more details about the Spam Filtering concern you have mentioned, as an email to support<at>zohomail<dot>com. We will have it analysed and suggest the best solution possible. Looking forward to hear from you. Regards, Zoho Mail Team
Grimburger 4y ago
I started using it solely for a personal domain email, $1 a month, solid deal. Eventually ended up using a bunch of its business features in time and moved the company email over, they hoovered me up real good.
wsc981 4y ago
I use Zoho Invoice for creating and sending invoices to my clients and it works well for my purpose.
- dieselgate 4y ago
  Oh interesting I wasn’t aware they had an invoice service.
aikinai 4y ago
Just in case you weren’t aware, Google backed off and let the grandfathered plans remain for individuals. I procrastinated my migration and it paid off!
- zmmmmm 4y ago
  Thanks - yes I did hear that, but sadly it isn't an option for me for some specific reasons specifically: I moved countries in between and now they require entry of a credit card even though they would supposedly not bill it, but they decline all my credit cards (which they are not going to bill) because the billing country has to match the account country ... as usual the support options end in a dead end / python script etc. Which all just points back to, I'm dealing with a giant borg too big too care and moving is probably the right thing any way.
- dpacmittal 4y ago
  Do you have a link about the grandfathered plans? I added my card on file few weeks back when Google was incessantly mailing about shutting my account if I didn't upgrade to paid plan. Would like to know if it was unnecessary
  - drwl 4y ago
    I came across this discussion and was shocked as well. Turns out there's now a button here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120?product_name=UnuFlow&hl=en&visit_id=637984706113206777-1801139693&rd=1&src=supportwidget0&hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120?product_name=Unu... "I used my account for personal use"
    - awiesenhofer 4y ago
      Hm, doesnt work for me unfortunately. it wants me to login but then only allows me to confirm the "Business Starter" Workspace it automatically selected.
      - drwl 4y ago

by zmmmmm 4y ago

silisili 4y ago

Same, and wish I had sooner. Really slick mobile app, and great spam detection.

sshine 4y ago

I moved one family member onto Zoho. It has been a very positive experience so far. You get an office system as part of the package. Some cases of the spam filter being too aggressive. I'd move myself if I wasn't so addicted to FastMail's beautiful web+mobile apps.

devoutsalsa 4y ago
I love Fastmail. Switched earlier this year & now I don't lose sleep about my email maybe getting canceled.
- tenpies 4y ago
  I only have to keep an eye on what fresh authoritarian nightmares the Australian government is up to. Not the worst thing ever, but it does seem all Western jurisdictions are ticking time bombs, and thanks to Five Eyes you're at the discretion of the worst one.
  - zmmmmm 4y ago
    It's sad but this definitely was one of the factors (by far not the only one, probably not even the main one, however still significant) that dissuaded me from moving to FastMail.
    - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
      Care to elaborate other factors?
  - devoutsalsa 4y ago
    You’re not wrong. I have to assume that someone is able to access & read my email if I’m not hosting it myself in my own home on my own hardware. Trade offs…
    - pmontra 4y ago
      I sympathize with you. I'm not self hosting but I'm not using Gmail which is what most of the people I know or work with are using. And yet Google could read most of my mail by looking at the mailboxes of the people I'm exchanging mail with. And the company running the SMTP and POP3 servers I use could read all my messages. I guess you are as safe from snooping as I am.
  - Grimburger 4y ago
    > all Western jurisdictions are ticking time bombs I'd consider anything based in the EU to at least be a step above anywhere 5eyes. They at least make an effort towards data privacy.
ZohoMailSupport 4y ago
Hello, Glad to know about your liking towards Zoho and We strive to make it even better for you everyday. Regarding the Spam filter, we do have customisations available in Spam Control which can be set as your prefer for your account/Organisation. Hence, it would be of much help if you could share more details about the Spam Filtering concern you have mentioned, as an email to support<at>zohomail<dot>com. We will have it analysed and suggest the best solution possible. Looking forward to hear from you. Regards, Zoho Mail Team

Grimburger 4y ago

I started using it solely for a personal domain email, $1 a month, solid deal. Eventually ended up using a bunch of its business features in time and moved the company email over, they hoovered me up real good.

wsc981 4y ago

I use Zoho Invoice for creating and sending invoices to my clients and it works well for my purpose.

dieselgate 4y ago
Oh interesting I wasn’t aware they had an invoice service.

aikinai 4y ago

Just in case you weren’t aware, Google backed off and let the grandfathered plans remain for individuals. I procrastinated my migration and it paid off!

zmmmmm 4y ago
Thanks - yes I did hear that, but sadly it isn't an option for me for some specific reasons specifically: I moved countries in between and now they require entry of a credit card even though they would supposedly not bill it, but they decline all my credit cards (which they are not going to bill) because the billing country has to match the account country ... as usual the support options end in a dead end / python script etc. Which all just points back to, I'm dealing with a giant borg too big too care and moving is probably the right thing any way.
dpacmittal 4y ago
Do you have a link about the grandfathered plans? I added my card on file few weeks back when Google was incessantly mailing about shutting my account if I didn't upgrade to paid plan. Would like to know if it was unnecessary
- drwl 4y ago
  I came across this discussion and was shocked as well. Turns out there's now a button here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120?product_name=UnuFlow&hl=en&visit_id=637984706113206777-1801139693&rd=1&src=supportwidget0&hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/2855120?product_name=Unu... "I used my account for personal use"
  - awiesenhofer 4y ago
    Hm, doesnt work for me unfortunately. it wants me to login but then only allows me to confirm the "Business Starter" Workspace it automatically selected.
    - drwl 4y ago