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No. They're here to help us save our planet. But honestly, UFOs are a cover for the US military trying out Black projects on their own forces. If they can't f

No. They're here to help us save our planet. But honestly, UFOs are a cover for the US military trying out Black projects on their own forces. If they can't figure out what it is, the Black project is working.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
> If they can't figure out what it is, the Black project is working. I was thinking the opposite. If the military cannot identify something (truly can't, not just saying they can't) then there is a serious gap in our sensor capabilities. If any entity needs to be able to identify objects, it's the military.
- JustSomeNobody 4y ago
  That's a good point too. I guess it depends on the objectives of the Black ops project.
- jmvoodoo 4y ago
  That sounds like two victories for the black project. 1) our last project was successful in evading existing sensor technologies, 2) our next project will address the gaps in our sensor capabilities. Funding secured.
- hindsightbias 4y ago
  Believers seem to be completely uncurious about where these sitings occurred. Which coincidentally happen to be the two most highly intrumented naval test ranges in the world. Ranges exist for two reasons: safely testing and monitoring shit. There’s a reason Capt. Obvious was a sailor.
ericmcer 4y ago
The idea of the US government having that level of technology and keeping it totally hidden doesn’t jive with all the missteps and human level errors we have seen so many politicians and military officials make. Looking at something like MK Ultra it is just a bunch of dudes doing shit by intuition and making massively dumb misstep’s. Unless things like that are just false flags to distract us from some hyper advanced and nefarious shadow govt we don’t know about.
- adventured 4y ago
  What would today's version of the SR-71 (1950s tech) or F-117 (1970s tech) look like and function like? It'd seem like a UFO compared to an F-16. It does jive with history just fine.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Honestly, today’s version of the SR-71 is drones and satellites.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      Incidentally the A-12 (basically a single seat SR-71) was adapted into the M-21 that carried a D-21 drone. This was a failure though, and the Chinese now have a wreck of a D-21 in one of their museums.
  - ericmcer 4y ago
    It would probably look like an extremely refined version of the original but would still be using jet propulsion. The maneuvers of many of the UFOs couldn't be performed by jet engines (stopping on a dime and then moving in the opposite direction instantly). Which would imply a new technology for movement. If you think about our current technology it follows a pretty linear evolution going all the way back to steam engines, in that we are setting stuff on fire and catching the energy from it. We just have more efficient material and better energy capture. We would have had to surpass this modality for creating energy entirely to achieve the feats that some of these UFOs are performing. That would have massive implications for energy, transportation etc. This just doesn't make sense unless most of what we know about our government is some giant facade.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > The idea of the US government having that level of technology and keeping it totally hidden doesn’t jive with all the missteps and human level errors we have seen so many politicians and military officials make. It's not clear what "that level of technology" even is. Mick West's analysis has convinced me that the videos the USN has publicly shown don't show any exotic capabilities. Inb4 the usual response of "USN pilots are experts they know what they saw" Experts can be mistaken. Experts can play pranks, participate in hoaxes, official disinformation schemes, etc.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

> If they can't figure out what it is, the Black project is working. I was thinking the opposite. If the military cannot identify something (truly can't, not just saying they can't) then there is a serious gap in our sensor capabilities. If any entity needs to be able to identify objects, it's the military.

JustSomeNobody 4y ago
That's a good point too. I guess it depends on the objectives of the Black ops project.
jmvoodoo 4y ago
That sounds like two victories for the black project. 1) our last project was successful in evading existing sensor technologies, 2) our next project will address the gaps in our sensor capabilities. Funding secured.
hindsightbias 4y ago
Believers seem to be completely uncurious about where these sitings occurred. Which coincidentally happen to be the two most highly intrumented naval test ranges in the world. Ranges exist for two reasons: safely testing and monitoring shit. There’s a reason Capt. Obvious was a sailor.

ericmcer 4y ago

The idea of the US government having that level of technology and keeping it totally hidden doesn’t jive with all the missteps and human level errors we have seen so many politicians and military officials make. Looking at something like MK Ultra it is just a bunch of dudes doing shit by intuition and making massively dumb misstep’s. Unless things like that are just false flags to distract us from some hyper advanced and nefarious shadow govt we don’t know about.

adventured 4y ago
What would today's version of the SR-71 (1950s tech) or F-117 (1970s tech) look like and function like? It'd seem like a UFO compared to an F-16. It does jive with history just fine.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Honestly, today’s version of the SR-71 is drones and satellites.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    Incidentally the A-12 (basically a single seat SR-71) was adapted into the M-21 that carried a D-21 drone. This was a failure though, and the Chinese now have a wreck of a D-21 in one of their museums.
- ericmcer 4y ago
  It would probably look like an extremely refined version of the original but would still be using jet propulsion. The maneuvers of many of the UFOs couldn't be performed by jet engines (stopping on a dime and then moving in the opposite direction instantly). Which would imply a new technology for movement. If you think about our current technology it follows a pretty linear evolution going all the way back to steam engines, in that we are setting stuff on fire and catching the energy from it. We just have more efficient material and better energy capture. We would have had to surpass this modality for creating energy entirely to achieve the feats that some of these UFOs are performing. That would have massive implications for energy, transportation etc. This just doesn't make sense unless most of what we know about our government is some giant facade.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
> The idea of the US government having that level of technology and keeping it totally hidden doesn’t jive with all the missteps and human level errors we have seen so many politicians and military officials make. It's not clear what "that level of technology" even is. Mick West's analysis has convinced me that the videos the USN has publicly shown don't show any exotic capabilities. Inb4 the usual response of "USN pilots are experts they know what they saw" Experts can be mistaken. Experts can play pranks, participate in hoaxes, official disinformation schemes, etc.