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Technical limitation or not, it is still a lie.
by inetknght 4y ago
Technical limitation or not, it is still a lie.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y agoIt's not a lie. "There are eleventy badillion results" is a true statement, not a promise to show you all of them.
- xdavidliu 4y agoBy that same logic, businesses can advertise "sale, many items 90% off" but when you show up, nothing is 90% off, and you could argue that the business only claimed that the items existed, they never said they would actually sell it to you.
- amelius 4y agoI'd be surprised if this didn't actually happen.
- pessimizer 4y agoThere are laws (at least in the US) about advertising sales that prevent it from happening.
- tshaddox 4y agoExcept that the word "sale" literally means that you can buy something.
- jjcon 4y agoSimilarly I think most would expect result to imply retrievability.
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- tshaddox 4y agoHow so? It makes perfect sense to say "there are 1 million results but you can only access 1,000 of them" but it's complete nonsense to say "we are selling 1 million items but we are only selling 1,000 of them."
- inetknght 4y ago> It makes perfect sense to say "there are 1 million results but you can only access 1,000 of them" Except that's _not_ what Google is saying. Google is saying there are 1 million results and won't tell you that you can only access the first N.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y agoWhere do you see Google's implied or explicit promise to provide with you every result they've found?
- inetknght 4y ago> Where do you see Google's implied promise to provide with you every result The implied promise is the button that says "Search". 1. It's a search engine. Searching is useless if it doesn't provide results. 2. Searching with other tools works. Use `grep` or your computer's local search feature and it will give you all of the results. 3. If I go through my old email, I can download literally every email. I can search literally every email, for hundreds of thousands of email.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago> Searching is useless if it doesn't provide results. True. But that's not the question, is it? The question is whether only giving you the "first" N of the results makes it useless, or something else... Nobody, I think, is contesting, that search in some contexts is always expected to provide you with access to everything that is found. The issue is whether that can be expected to apply to a case where 10M results are found, and if not, what the cutoff point ought to be ...
- pessimizer 4y agoYou can certainly buy things at this store, and there are certainly things for sale at 90% off. The things that are 90% off are at other stores, though, and this store can't be blamed for your assumptions.
- xdavidliu 4y agoaha! Sale means SOMEONE can buy something. Not necessarily you! Under the hood, it means that only relatives of the store owner can actually purchase it. Gotcha! You shoulda read the fine print more closely!
- wolpoli 4y agoWe wouldn't tolerate a business advertising "up to 90% off" if there doesn't exist at least one item that is 90% off. Businesses can't point to an item that is 30% off and claim that 30% off is a subset of 90% off.
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- amelius 4y agoYou could test that hypothesis by publishing some long hash on several hundred pages, then search for it.
- 0x000xca0xfe 4y agoI believe you can no longer google hash values? It used to work years ago but I just searched for "6867d9167683fb8f42558a81ad107f5b" and got zero results. That is the MD5 hash for "asd3" and this is short enough that it should be on one of those MD5 web pages... Update: Wow, zero results for "2585ecdb9a753ca54a96fae62bfda433", the MD5 hash of "r68". They must be filtering them out on purpose. Update 2: Googling "2585ecdb9a753ca54a96fae62bfda433" now turns up this exact 10 minute old comment, so your approach might work if the hash is embedded within "real" content.
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- checkyoursudo 4y agoWhen I search for "How do elephants know what time it is", and Google tells me there are "Ungefähr 429.000.000 Ergebnisse" (about 429 million results), what is Google actually telling me? There are 429,000,000 pages that are related to my search? There are 4.29x10^8 pages that have, what, one or more of those words on them? Seems more like a lie than like the truth.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y agoIn the 53 mins since you checked, google has apparently found another 4.3M results for this query :)
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- nmeagent 4y agoHow is this not a modern flavor of bait and switch?