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Still no USB-C port. Disappointing.

rcarr 4y ago
EU Law stipulates it's got to be USB-C by Autumn 2024. Will be interesting to see if they implement it next year or hold off again.
- dis-sys 4y ago
  do they require USB-C on every computer? just checked all my desktops, none of them have USB-C.
  - rcarr 4y ago
    According to this article, laptops will be following 40 months later so end of 2027/start of 2028 https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/07/eu-agrees-all-mobile-phones-tablets-must-have-the-same-charging-port-in-world-first https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/07/eu-agrees-all-mobil...
- mikequinlan 4y ago
  Won't Apple just provide a dongle or adapter?
- dymk 4y ago
  I look forward to EU landfills receiving tonnes of Lightning cables. And 10 years from now, receiving more tonnes of USB-C cables once the next USB standard makes the current set of cables obsolete (even assuming they share the same port shape).
- yreg 4y ago
  I won't be surprised if Apple removes the port completely instead.
  - wilsonnb3 4y ago
    Same, I think a magsafe only iPhone is very possible next year. MagSafe would need an update to support high bandwidth data transfer but that seems feasible.
    - arvinsim 4y ago
      The are going eSIM only in NA. If they go portless, they are just adding more reasons for me not to buy an iPhone.
- Too 4y ago
  Does this apply to the phone or only the transformer? Last iphone i unboxed came with a charger that has a usb-c outlet and a usb-c to lightning cable. Even if i would be more than happy to hear that the phone requires it as well. The transformer is the biggest source of e-waste and the biggest nuisance to carry around while traveling. Cables are smaller factors in both aspects.
bluetidepro 4y ago
For new or transferring Android users this would be amazing, but I have to say at this point I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem that I'd be more mad if they switched to USB-C. Haha I realize the Band-Aid will most likely have to be ripped off at some point, but currently I still am fine with no USB-C.
- postalrat 4y ago
  What are you replacing besides the cables? Worst case is you add another dongle to your collection.
  - t-writescode 4y ago
    A dongle attached to my IR camera would make the IR camera much more annoying to use, for example. It operates directly flush against the bottom of the phone. Cables tend to wiggle around.
- Eric_WVGG 4y ago
  It's really weird how folks talk about e-waste and environmental factors, as if a switch to USB-C wouldn't mean three trillion Lightning cables getting yeeted into the ocean… like, I personally am quite over Lightning, but come on, folks also deeply weird and annoying that the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse use lightning for charging, that was a dumb call out of the gate
  - quixoticelixer- 4y ago
    It's not like lightning cables have an infinite lifespan though. And they won't actually be sent into the ocean
    - Eric_WVGG 4y ago
      double-check the little paper pamphlet that came with your iPhone, it literally says "please drive to the closest ocean — Pacific if you're in Kansas — and throw your lightning cable into the water when it reaches the end of its finite lifespan" in fine print.
chadlavi 4y ago
Rumor is it'll be in the 15.
giantrobot 4y ago
Mechanically, I'd much rather have Lightning on a phone than USB-C. The USB-C connector fucking sucks for a device that plugs and unplugs multiple times a day. The device-side connector is more fragile since it's a thin center fin vs Lightning's edge connections. Lightning's device side connectors are backed by the body of the device itself. In my experience the retention mechanism is far more secure as well. I don't hate USB-C but it's far from perfect for every use case.
- function_seven 4y ago
  Same. The Lightning connector does double duty as a holder for the phone. You can support the weight of the phone cantilevered from just that connector. I wouldn't trust USB-C to hold up to the same abuse I deal to my lightning connectors.
  - postalrat 4y ago
    Typically the ends of the cable has a steel part that goes into the slot. Torque applied to the cable would be limited by the steel end and not affect the inner electrical connection.

EU Law stipulates it's got to be USB-C by Autumn 2024. Will be interesting to see if they implement it next year or hold off again.

dis-sys 4y ago
do they require USB-C on every computer? just checked all my desktops, none of them have USB-C.
- rcarr 4y ago
  According to this article, laptops will be following 40 months later so end of 2027/start of 2028 https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/07/eu-agrees-all-mobile-phones-tablets-must-have-the-same-charging-port-in-world-first https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/07/eu-agrees-all-mobil...
mikequinlan 4y ago
Won't Apple just provide a dongle or adapter?
dymk 4y ago
I look forward to EU landfills receiving tonnes of Lightning cables. And 10 years from now, receiving more tonnes of USB-C cables once the next USB standard makes the current set of cables obsolete (even assuming they share the same port shape).
yreg 4y ago
I won't be surprised if Apple removes the port completely instead.
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  Same, I think a magsafe only iPhone is very possible next year. MagSafe would need an update to support high bandwidth data transfer but that seems feasible.
  - arvinsim 4y ago
    The are going eSIM only in NA. If they go portless, they are just adding more reasons for me not to buy an iPhone.
Too 4y ago
Does this apply to the phone or only the transformer? Last iphone i unboxed came with a charger that has a usb-c outlet and a usb-c to lightning cable. Even if i would be more than happy to hear that the phone requires it as well. The transformer is the biggest source of e-waste and the biggest nuisance to carry around while traveling. Cables are smaller factors in both aspects.

bluetidepro 4y ago

For new or transferring Android users this would be amazing, but I have to say at this point I'm so deep into the Apple ecosystem that I'd be more mad if they switched to USB-C. Haha I realize the Band-Aid will most likely have to be ripped off at some point, but currently I still am fine with no USB-C.

postalrat 4y ago
What are you replacing besides the cables? Worst case is you add another dongle to your collection.
- t-writescode 4y ago
  A dongle attached to my IR camera would make the IR camera much more annoying to use, for example. It operates directly flush against the bottom of the phone. Cables tend to wiggle around.
Eric_WVGG 4y ago
It's really weird how folks talk about e-waste and environmental factors, as if a switch to USB-C wouldn't mean three trillion Lightning cables getting yeeted into the ocean… like, I personally am quite over Lightning, but come on, folks also deeply weird and annoying that the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse use lightning for charging, that was a dumb call out of the gate
- quixoticelixer- 4y ago
  It's not like lightning cables have an infinite lifespan though. And they won't actually be sent into the ocean
  - Eric_WVGG 4y ago
    double-check the little paper pamphlet that came with your iPhone, it literally says "please drive to the closest ocean — Pacific if you're in Kansas — and throw your lightning cable into the water when it reaches the end of its finite lifespan" in fine print.

chadlavi 4y ago

Rumor is it'll be in the 15.

giantrobot 4y ago

Mechanically, I'd much rather have Lightning on a phone than USB-C. The USB-C connector fucking sucks for a device that plugs and unplugs multiple times a day. The device-side connector is more fragile since it's a thin center fin vs Lightning's edge connections. Lightning's device side connectors are backed by the body of the device itself. In my experience the retention mechanism is far more secure as well. I don't hate USB-C but it's far from perfect for every use case.

function_seven 4y ago
Same. The Lightning connector does double duty as a holder for the phone. You can support the weight of the phone cantilevered from just that connector. I wouldn't trust USB-C to hold up to the same abuse I deal to my lightning connectors.
- postalrat 4y ago
  Typically the ends of the cable has a steel part that goes into the slot. Torque applied to the cable would be limited by the steel end and not affect the inner electrical connection.