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If you're still using Chrome now is the time to switch to Firefox. This is an interesting experiment but the only solution is to stop using Chrome.

Melatonic 4y ago
Firefox FTW
tapoxi 4y ago
You can also use Brave, which implements its own native adblocker and isn't impacted by Manifest v3.
- contravariant 4y ago
  Do you mean that particular adblocker is not impacted or is Brave going to maintain support for the APIs dropped by Manifest v3?
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  - bkallus 4y ago
    Both. "We will continue to support Manifest v2 to the extent that we can" "Brave's adblocker (Brave Shields) is not an extension, and is natively implemented. So, it will be totally unaffected." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/rdab12/how_will_manifest_v3_affect_adblocking_on_brave/ https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/rdab12/how_w...
  - nightpool 4y ago
    Brave has committed to retaining support for all of the APIs that were removed by Manifest v3 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059#issuecomment-992720832 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059#issuecom... (There are other mentions in the wiki and other places)
  - antonok 4y ago
    Brendan Eich has committed to supporting the Manifest V2 version of uBlock Origin in Brave [1]. Brave's built-in native adblocker also definitely won't be affected, as it doesn't use any webextension APIs at all. [1]: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/discussions/14544#discussioncomment-3490321 https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/discussions/14544#di...
  - therealmarv 4y ago
    Brave's adblocker is internal and written in Rust. https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust I'm pretty sure it's also faster than any adblock extension like uBlock.
- prvc 4y ago
  Any disadvantages to switching from Chrome or Firefox?
dilap 4y ago
First time in a while running Firefox on Mac, and I'm happy to report it finally supports bounce scrolling! In general scrolling is very smooth and performance seems excellent.
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display. Also, scrolling feels different. Different speed, different acceleration. Still doesn't feel native at all.
  - dilap 4y ago
    > Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display Where's that setting? > Different speed, different acceleration. Huh, interesting! Are you mouse or trackpad? I'm comparing side-by-side on trackpad and I can't detect any difference. If I flick the trackpad at the same speed they will both land roughly in the same place on the page, and the variation, as near as I can tell, is because of variations in my flick speed. In both Safari and Firefox I find it basically effortless to scroll exactly where I want to. (This was emphatically not true for me in previous versions of Firefox.) Feels totally natural. Though maybe there is a difference I'm just not sensitive enough to detect! FWIW, I'm on Firefox 104.0.2, macOS 12.5.1, MB Pro / M1 Max. (Spark, which is a supposedly-native email app, somehow has weirder feeling scrolling to me than Firefox.)
    - jbverschoor 4y ago
      Reduce Motion in display or accessibility settings I think it’s called. I’m on M1. Just updated FF from the menu. I’m using the trackpad, but again, I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration.
      - dilap 4y ago
        Huh, yeah, turning on "Reduce motion" does indeed disable bounce scroll in Firefox. Definitely a strange choice on their part! (It doesn't affect it in other apps.) > I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration I see, that could make sense, if Safari was honoring those changes and Firefox wasn't, in some way. I've got mostly stock settings (slightly bumped up speed and three-finger drag) and it feels spot-on.
wnevets 4y ago
The moment I need to deicide between installing UBO Minus or making Firefox my default browser is the moment I make Firefox my default browser. Browsing the internet without a fully functioning uBlock Origin is a nightmare.
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ianlevesque 4y ago
Firefox still isn't a suitable Chrome replacement. Chrome may be beaconing half your browsing data back to Mountain View quietly in the background, but Firefox shoves its monetization strategy right in your face every time you open a new tab (Pocket, VPN ads, etc). Firefox is also drastically more complex in the UI and menus, and is missing a lot of UX niceties in the window and address bar itself (extra clicks to search all open tabs comes to mind). Mozilla has no one to blame but Mozilla for where Firefox isn't in terms of market share.
- sfink 4y ago
  Search all open tabs in Firefox: prefix your search with "% " (percent followed by a space). Or don't, and it'll probably be in the list of suggested results anyway. (Unless you're using container tabs, in which case it'll only search open tabs in the current container, which is sometimes good but usually a nuisance.) I much prefer Firefox's address bar search heuristics over Chrome's, but it definitely depends on your usage patterns. Firefox is very good at suggesting relevant things from my history, to the extent that I will gasp actually close tabs now and rely on search to rediscover them, rather than forever accumulating open tabs that I might want to get back to.
- viraptor 4y ago
  If the feature you're listing here is searching across all tabs... I think it's perfectly fine. Both have features not available in the other one. > Mozilla has no one to blame but Mozilla for where Firefox isn't in terms of market share. I think you should read up on how Chrome was/is advertised, how is pushed to users and what marketing channels and resources Google has.
  - EbNar 4y ago
InCityDreams 4y ago
Please may i continue to use Brave?

Melatonic 4y ago

Firefox FTW

tapoxi 4y ago

You can also use Brave, which implements its own native adblocker and isn't impacted by Manifest v3.

contravariant 4y ago
Do you mean that particular adblocker is not impacted or is Brave going to maintain support for the APIs dropped by Manifest v3?
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- bkallus 4y ago
  Both. "We will continue to support Manifest v2 to the extent that we can" "Brave's adblocker (Brave Shields) is not an extension, and is natively implemented. So, it will be totally unaffected." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/rdab12/how_will_manifest_v3_affect_adblocking_on_brave/ https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/rdab12/how_w...
- nightpool 4y ago
  Brave has committed to retaining support for all of the APIs that were removed by Manifest v3 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059#issuecomment-992720832 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059#issuecom... (There are other mentions in the wiki and other places)
- antonok 4y ago
  Brendan Eich has committed to supporting the Manifest V2 version of uBlock Origin in Brave [1]. Brave's built-in native adblocker also definitely won't be affected, as it doesn't use any webextension APIs at all. [1]: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/discussions/14544#discussioncomment-3490321 https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/discussions/14544#di...
- therealmarv 4y ago
  Brave's adblocker is internal and written in Rust. https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust I'm pretty sure it's also faster than any adblock extension like uBlock.
prvc 4y ago
Any disadvantages to switching from Chrome or Firefox?

dilap 4y ago

First time in a while running Firefox on Mac, and I'm happy to report it finally supports bounce scrolling! In general scrolling is very smooth and performance seems excellent.

jbverschoor 4y ago
Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display. Also, scrolling feels different. Different speed, different acceleration. Still doesn't feel native at all.
- dilap 4y ago
  > Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display Where's that setting? > Different speed, different acceleration. Huh, interesting! Are you mouse or trackpad? I'm comparing side-by-side on trackpad and I can't detect any difference. If I flick the trackpad at the same speed they will both land roughly in the same place on the page, and the variation, as near as I can tell, is because of variations in my flick speed. In both Safari and Firefox I find it basically effortless to scroll exactly where I want to. (This was emphatically not true for me in previous versions of Firefox.) Feels totally natural. Though maybe there is a difference I'm just not sensitive enough to detect! FWIW, I'm on Firefox 104.0.2, macOS 12.5.1, MB Pro / M1 Max. (Spark, which is a supposedly-native email app, somehow has weirder feeling scrolling to me than Firefox.)
  - jbverschoor 4y ago
    Reduce Motion in display or accessibility settings I think it’s called. I’m on M1. Just updated FF from the menu. I’m using the trackpad, but again, I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration.
    - dilap 4y ago
      Huh, yeah, turning on "Reduce motion" does indeed disable bounce scroll in Firefox. Definitely a strange choice on their part! (It doesn't affect it in other apps.) > I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration I see, that could make sense, if Safari was honoring those changes and Firefox wasn't, in some way. I've got mostly stock settings (slightly bumped up speed and three-finger drag) and it feels spot-on.

wnevets 4y ago

The moment I need to deicide between installing UBO Minus or making Firefox my default browser is the moment I make Firefox my default browser. Browsing the internet without a fully functioning uBlock Origin is a nightmare.

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ianlevesque 4y ago

Firefox still isn't a suitable Chrome replacement. Chrome may be beaconing half your browsing data back to Mountain View quietly in the background, but Firefox shoves its monetization strategy right in your face every time you open a new tab (Pocket, VPN ads, etc). Firefox is also drastically more complex in the UI and menus, and is missing a lot of UX niceties in the window and address bar itself (extra clicks to search all open tabs comes to mind). Mozilla has no one to blame but Mozilla for where Firefox isn't in terms of market share.

sfink 4y ago
Search all open tabs in Firefox: prefix your search with "% " (percent followed by a space). Or don't, and it'll probably be in the list of suggested results anyway. (Unless you're using container tabs, in which case it'll only search open tabs in the current container, which is sometimes good but usually a nuisance.) I much prefer Firefox's address bar search heuristics over Chrome's, but it definitely depends on your usage patterns. Firefox is very good at suggesting relevant things from my history, to the extent that I will gasp actually close tabs now and rely on search to rediscover them, rather than forever accumulating open tabs that I might want to get back to.
viraptor 4y ago
If the feature you're listing here is searching across all tabs... I think it's perfectly fine. Both have features not available in the other one. > Mozilla has no one to blame but Mozilla for where Firefox isn't in terms of market share. I think you should read up on how Chrome was/is advertised, how is pushed to users and what marketing channels and resources Google has.
- EbNar 4y ago

InCityDreams 4y ago

Please may i continue to use Brave?