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Can't relate. I've spent a lot of time aggressively tuning my YouTube and TikTok recommendations using the "not interested" button and now 90% of the videos on
by NavinF 4y ago
Can't relate. I've spent a lot of time aggressively tuning my YouTube and TikTok recommendations using the "not interested" button and now 90% of the videos on my homepage are 10/10 bangers.
Try opening YouTube in incognito and watching the first 10 videos. You'll cringe so hard that your body will be twisted up like a pretzel.
- synu 4y agoHow did you get YouTube to stop recommending videos you’ve already seen?
- ntlx 4y agoWould love to know the answer to this as well.
- NavinF 4y agoI replied to GP.
- pbhjpbhj 4y agoMaybe frustration with YouTube somehow drives more engagement, so you'll go looking for new content and stay longer -- like how shops rearrange things to expose you to other goods and so increase sales. Perhaps you need to change human behaviour so that most people don't rewatch things? (Speculation! Personally I prefer fresh content too.) Maybe YouTube have found that rewatching items drives people to annoyance with the adverts and gets more revenue?
- NavinF 4y agoThis is gonna sound pretty silly, but: You gotta scroll down! The top recommendations on YouTube are often extremely "safe" in the sense that you'll feel bad about marking them as "not interested" because you already like the video and the uploader. This is likely a bug in their reward function, but if you skip the safe recommendations you'll start seeing more more intelligent recs such as videos that have the same presentation style as the ones you like except they were uploaded by unknown creators with 1k subs. Over time the algorithm will learn that you only like to rewatch certain kinds of videos (music videos in my case) and that you like to be surprised. Note that refreshing the page doesn't help. It will keep giving you new equally-safe recs until you scroll at least 1 page down and force it to generate new recs.
- bondarchuk 4y ago>if you skip the safe recommendations you'll start seeing more more intelligent recs such as videos that have the same presentation style as the ones you like except they were uploaded by unknown creators with 1k subs. Over time the algorithm will learn that you only like to rewatch certain kinds of videos (music videos in my case) and that you like to be surprised. Why oh why can't you just tell youtube that this is what you want, instead of some elaborate algorithm training dance?
- NavinF 4y agoBuilding an easily tunable recommendation algorithm has been on my bucket list for over a decade. I'm not aware of any serious implementations. I'm sure if you look at the issue trackers for any alternative client for YouTube, you'll find people who strive towards the same goal.
- synu 4y agoInteresting, thanks for the detailed answer. I’m going to give it a shot.
- bobsmooth 4y agoDon't watch them. I hate that YT recommends videos I've already seen but I also click on them more often than not.
- synu 4y agoI don’t watch them again, but it keeps recommending them.
- imiric 4y agoI have the same experience using Invidious, which just shows videos of all my subscriptions in the order they're posted, without using any of YouTube's recommendation algorithms. If I want to watch a video about a related topic, I'll just search for it. And agree about the logged out view. It's not for me, but clearly has a huge audience.
- michaelgrafl 4y agoOpening YouTube in incognito is a really depressing experience for me. Reminds me that I'm maybe not as in touch with the general population as I'd like to believe, which is a plus. It also stokes my misanthropy, which is why I don't do it much.
- me_me_me 4y agoIts depressing to say the least. Its bunch of click-bait outrage and sport trivia. And the god awful 'celebrities' fucking around and somehow have massive following. Its a lens on gen pop, but i dont like looking through it.