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I honestly wonder how many studies have been done on peoples fitness in 2022. Most people I know do next to nothing for their cardio vascular systems, or their

I honestly wonder how many studies have been done on peoples fitness in 2022. Most people I know do next to nothing for their cardio vascular systems, or their health. Maybe these things are unavoidable no matter how fit one is, but some in their thirties are less fit than 75 year olds I know.

Scoundreller 4y ago
yeah, this study is missing controls
- mikewarot 4y ago
  Well, where can you get a large population who haven't been exposed to Covid-19, to be that control group?
  - qbasic_forever 4y ago
    China.
  - mbreese 4y ago
    Ideally you’d use matched historical controls from before 2019. Depending on the study, that’s a common source for “controls”. But it depends on using measurements/diagnoses that are roughly standard. For example, prior to 2019, 30-40 years old made up X% or people diagnosed with a cardiomyopathy. Post 2020, that number is Y%.
    - cma 4y ago
      But many other diseases are way down since 2019, due to more social distancing and remote work.
      - Scoundreller 4y ago
        or less testing!
  - ekianjo 4y ago
    there's something called longitudinal studies, you know.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    > underwent a baseline scan after a minimum of 4 weeks from the diagnosis of initial COVID-19 between April 2020 and October 2021 and a follow-up examination after a minimum of 4 months from baseline They had time. Study only looked at 350 people.
  - bawolff 4y ago
    Just because a problem is hard to solve doesn't make the problem not matter.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    Western Australia maybe :-)
ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Also the effects of lockdowns on all that. Walking to and from the car a few times a day was, for some people, pretty much all of their daily exercies. Working from home meant they didn't even do that. Even the mainstream media is reporting about worsening state of kids health due to missing out on in-school exercise (PE) during lockdowns and schooling from home. Closing down playgrounds, basketball courts, footbal fields also did not help. Gyms closed too.
Broken_Hippo 4y ago
but some in their thirties are less fit than 75 year olds I know. It has Always been like that. There are many, many folks in their 30s. Of course some of them are going to be sick - sicker than a 75 year old. A large group of them won't make it to their 70's: A subset won't make it to 40. The 75 year old has been lucky enough not to die so far. I'm pretty sure that when they were in their 30's, they knew an amount of unhealthy folks, too - that were more unhealthy than the 75 year olds at the time. In other words: A 75 year old being healthier than a subset of 30 year olds doesn't prove or mean anything.
quickthrower2 4y ago
Other than family, if you known the 75 year old they are probably out and about and mobile. And I get the vibe that older people know they need to take care of things to continue to enjoy life.

Scoundreller 4y ago

yeah, this study is missing controls

mikewarot 4y ago
Well, where can you get a large population who haven't been exposed to Covid-19, to be that control group?
- qbasic_forever 4y ago
  China.
- mbreese 4y ago
  Ideally you’d use matched historical controls from before 2019. Depending on the study, that’s a common source for “controls”. But it depends on using measurements/diagnoses that are roughly standard. For example, prior to 2019, 30-40 years old made up X% or people diagnosed with a cardiomyopathy. Post 2020, that number is Y%.
  - cma 4y ago
    But many other diseases are way down since 2019, due to more social distancing and remote work.
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      or less testing!
- ekianjo 4y ago
  there's something called longitudinal studies, you know.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  > underwent a baseline scan after a minimum of 4 weeks from the diagnosis of initial COVID-19 between April 2020 and October 2021 and a follow-up examination after a minimum of 4 months from baseline They had time. Study only looked at 350 people.
- bawolff 4y ago
  Just because a problem is hard to solve doesn't make the problem not matter.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Western Australia maybe :-)

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

Also the effects of lockdowns on all that. Walking to and from the car a few times a day was, for some people, pretty much all of their daily exercies. Working from home meant they didn't even do that. Even the mainstream media is reporting about worsening state of kids health due to missing out on in-school exercise (PE) during lockdowns and schooling from home. Closing down playgrounds, basketball courts, footbal fields also did not help. Gyms closed too.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

but some in their thirties are less fit than 75 year olds I know. It has Always been like that. There are many, many folks in their 30s. Of course some of them are going to be sick - sicker than a 75 year old. A large group of them won't make it to their 70's: A subset won't make it to 40. The 75 year old has been lucky enough not to die so far. I'm pretty sure that when they were in their 30's, they knew an amount of unhealthy folks, too - that were more unhealthy than the 75 year olds at the time. In other words: A 75 year old being healthier than a subset of 30 year olds doesn't prove or mean anything.

quickthrower2 4y ago

Other than family, if you known the 75 year old they are probably out and about and mobile. And I get the vibe that older people know they need to take care of things to continue to enjoy life.