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I haven't had it, and I certainly don't want it, reading these articles.

nradov 4y ago
The virus isn't going away so you're going to get it whether you want it or not. Unless you avoid all human contact, which is obviously worse and more unhealthy than any respiratory virus.
- GolDDranks 4y ago
  In the meanwhile, a vaccine targeting BA.4 and BA.5 is being approved at these moments where I live. If I manage to avoid an infection for some another months and get the jab, I guess I'll be fine for the time being.
- cma 4y ago
  The metaverse gets facetracking next month.
- nishs 4y ago
  The absolutes in this comment show heavy bias.
- nishs 4y ago
  > Unless you avoid all human contact […] Here comes the straw man. Secondly, the original comment was likely talking about doing their best* to avoid infection. Doing one’s best but failing is an acceptable outcome. Even if one fails, being infected once is better than being infected twice. In general, for covid, being infected as few times as possible is a good thing and a worthwhile goal. -- *For some people, doing their best might even include doing some relatively unsafe activities on a whim occasionally. Being so doesn’t make them hypocrites.
  - nradov 4y ago
    There's no point in trying when failure is inevitable.
    - nishs 4y ago
      Humbly speaking, failure isn’t inevitable in avoiding covid infection. For example, if you’re fortunate enough to work from home, you’re already nearly there. The rest is curbside pickups, home deliveries for groceries, and responsible N95/P100 mask wearing. Also, did you read the comment you’re replying to? I repeat its point: Failing once is better than failing twice. Failing twice better than failing thrice. And so on.
      - nradov 4y ago
        So you're suggesting that people eliminate all direct human contact just to avoid a minor respiratory virus with a >99% survival rate? It's sad to see people fall into mental illnesses like germophobia. https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosing-a-specific-phobia-2671981 https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosing-a-specific-phobia-26...
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        nishs 4y ago
        > So you're suggesting that people eliminate all direct human contact [...] > There's no point in trying when failure is inevitable. I didn't ask that you eliminate all human contact. I called you out for telling other people that trying to avoid it is futile and for discouraging others from doing so. In any case, one can still do their best to avoid covid, without necessarily avoiding human contact. Avoiding all human contact is just your straw man, it seems. > a minor respiratory virus with a >99% survival rate It's not the acute phase that matters. I (and most people) don't care about the acute phase. So your patronizing about phobias was not only unnecessary but also widely off the mark. Covid isn't just a respiratory illness, like the common cold, that ends with a 'full' recovery after the acute phase. The post-acute phase* incidence and morbidity is on another level of magnitude. Covid presents as a respiratory illness in its acute phase. In its post-acute phase, covid is vascular and neurological. Some physicians consider it airborne thrombotic vasculitis, since it causes clotting and damage to multiple organ systems after initial infection. For many, post-covid disorders are typically characterized by serious issues such as brain damage--or "brain fog," to be cutesy; postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS); post-exertional malaise (PEM); and myalgic encephalomyelitis-like chronic fatigue--or "fatigue," to be dismissive. So much so that 1/3 of 10 MM job unfilled job vacancies in the US are estimated to be due to long covid absences. *Many other viral illnesses, e.g., dengue virus, HIV, EBV, present post-acute phase issues, so this isn't unique or surprising.

The virus isn't going away so you're going to get it whether you want it or not. Unless you avoid all human contact, which is obviously worse and more unhealthy than any respiratory virus.

GolDDranks 4y ago
In the meanwhile, a vaccine targeting BA.4 and BA.5 is being approved at these moments where I live. If I manage to avoid an infection for some another months and get the jab, I guess I'll be fine for the time being.
cma 4y ago
The metaverse gets facetracking next month.
nishs 4y ago
The absolutes in this comment show heavy bias.
nishs 4y ago
> Unless you avoid all human contact […] Here comes the straw man. Secondly, the original comment was likely talking about doing their best* to avoid infection. Doing one’s best but failing is an acceptable outcome. Even if one fails, being infected once is better than being infected twice. In general, for covid, being infected as few times as possible is a good thing and a worthwhile goal. -- *For some people, doing their best might even include doing some relatively unsafe activities on a whim occasionally. Being so doesn’t make them hypocrites.
- nradov 4y ago
  There's no point in trying when failure is inevitable.
  - nishs 4y ago
    Humbly speaking, failure isn’t inevitable in avoiding covid infection. For example, if you’re fortunate enough to work from home, you’re already nearly there. The rest is curbside pickups, home deliveries for groceries, and responsible N95/P100 mask wearing. Also, did you read the comment you’re replying to? I repeat its point: Failing once is better than failing twice. Failing twice better than failing thrice. And so on.
    - nradov 4y ago
      So you're suggesting that people eliminate all direct human contact just to avoid a minor respiratory virus with a >99% survival rate? It's sad to see people fall into mental illnesses like germophobia. https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosing-a-specific-phobia-2671981 https://www.verywellmind.com/diagnosing-a-specific-phobia-26...
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      - nishs 4y ago
        > So you're suggesting that people eliminate all direct human contact [...] > There's no point in trying when failure is inevitable. I didn't ask that you eliminate all human contact. I called you out for telling other people that trying to avoid it is futile and for discouraging others from doing so. In any case, one can still do their best to avoid covid, without necessarily avoiding human contact. Avoiding all human contact is just your straw man, it seems. > a minor respiratory virus with a >99% survival rate It's not the acute phase that matters. I (and most people) don't care about the acute phase. So your patronizing about phobias was not only unnecessary but also widely off the mark. Covid isn't just a respiratory illness, like the common cold, that ends with a 'full' recovery after the acute phase. The post-acute phase* incidence and morbidity is on another level of magnitude. Covid presents as a respiratory illness in its acute phase. In its post-acute phase, covid is vascular and neurological. Some physicians consider it airborne thrombotic vasculitis, since it causes clotting and damage to multiple organ systems after initial infection. For many, post-covid disorders are typically characterized by serious issues such as brain damage--or "brain fog," to be cutesy; postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS); post-exertional malaise (PEM); and myalgic encephalomyelitis-like chronic fatigue--or "fatigue," to be dismissive. So much so that 1/3 of 10 MM job unfilled job vacancies in the US are estimated to be due to long covid absences. *Many other viral illnesses, e.g., dengue virus, HIV, EBV, present post-acute phase issues, so this isn't unique or surprising.