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Neither Ukraine (or at least the Azov batallion) nor Russia adhered to the Minsk agreement. There was low-intensity fighting from both sides, going on since 20
by zosima 4y ago
Neither Ukraine (or at least the Azov batallion) nor Russia adhered to the Minsk agreement.
There was low-intensity fighting from both sides, going on since 2014. And honestly, in this fight, one of the parties, the main attackers on the Ukrainian side, were actual Nazis.
Here is Zelensky while still a comedian cracking a joke about the Nazis on the Ukrainian side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uToQqIZ_3Go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uToQqIZ_3Go
- nradov 4y agoSo what. None of that is relevant to the current situation. No one is under any illusions that the Ukrainians are all angels. But as long as they're willing to do the hard work of killing Russian soldiers, it's best to continue supporting them as that protects the rest of us in the long run.
- zosima 4y agoIt's very relevant, as I can believe a bunch of Nazis didn't adhere to the Minsk agreement. And no, this war doesn't protect anyone. And indiscriminately killing young Russian and Ukrainian men serves no sensible purpose. A war of this magnitude is just a complete waste of life and wealth. The only effect it will have in the long-term is to make everyone of us worse off.
- nradov 4y agoNo, it protects other countries on Russia's borders (including some of our close allies) from further aggression. If the Ukrainians manage to kill off enough Russians then that will take Russia off the board as a global player for years to come. They already had a declining birth rate and a weak manufacturing economy so it's difficult for them to make up losses. It's unfortunate that things have to be that way, but that's reality.
- YarickR2 4y ago