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Honestly the angle should be "Israel wastes $1.2 billion on cloud-based surveillance it doesn't need". Even without Google and Amazon's help, the IDF is quite c

Honestly the angle should be "Israel wastes $1.2 billion on cloud-based surveillance it doesn't need". Even without Google and Amazon's help, the IDF is quite capable of surveiling every face and ascertaining whether you are lying, as anyone who has been through Israeli airport security can tell you.

swores 4y ago
Not sure if you're joking, or think that walking through an airport (for most people) will reveal how great or useless the security are at "ascertaining whether you're lying". Are we all meant to be testing a few lies each time we fly somewhere to judge that airport's security?
- dekhn 4y ago
  They are referring the process by which large numbers of people coming into Israeli airports are questioned by professionals acting like lie detectors.
  - swores 4y ago
    Ah, thanks.
  - z9znz 4y ago
    Large numbers of people coming into Israel? Israel receives fewer than 5 million tourists per year from what I can find online. That is less than 1/10th of the top 5 countries for tourism. And as an amusing point of reference, that is 1/4th the number of visitors who travel to the one city of Bangkok each year.
    - swores 4y ago
      You've misunderstood their comment, what they are saying is that a large proportion of arrivals get questioned, not making a comment on the total number of passengers compared to other places.
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filoleg 4y ago
Damn, you are actually correct. I have read that whole article, and wasn't even sure what the contract was for, but it sounded like some super scary surveillance program. Your description of it sounded nothing like what that article painted at all. Then I decided to search for other articles about this that are written a bit more competently[0], and yup, it all checks out. Looks like a typical "we are migrating our infra from on-prem to cloud with GCP and AWS". 0. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/google-workers-protest-1-2b-project-nimbus-contract-with-israeli-military/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/google-workers-protest-1-2...

swores 4y ago

Not sure if you're joking, or think that walking through an airport (for most people) will reveal how great or useless the security are at "ascertaining whether you're lying". Are we all meant to be testing a few lies each time we fly somewhere to judge that airport's security?

dekhn 4y ago
They are referring the process by which large numbers of people coming into Israeli airports are questioned by professionals acting like lie detectors.
- swores 4y ago
  Ah, thanks.
- z9znz 4y ago
  Large numbers of people coming into Israel? Israel receives fewer than 5 million tourists per year from what I can find online. That is less than 1/10th of the top 5 countries for tourism. And as an amusing point of reference, that is 1/4th the number of visitors who travel to the one city of Bangkok each year.
  - swores 4y ago
    You've misunderstood their comment, what they are saying is that a large proportion of arrivals get questioned, not making a comment on the total number of passengers compared to other places.
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filoleg 4y ago

Damn, you are actually correct. I have read that whole article, and wasn't even sure what the contract was for, but it sounded like some super scary surveillance program. Your description of it sounded nothing like what that article painted at all. Then I decided to search for other articles about this that are written a bit more competently[0], and yup, it all checks out. Looks like a typical "we are migrating our infra from on-prem to cloud with GCP and AWS". 0. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/google-workers-protest-1-2b-project-nimbus-contract-with-israeli-military/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/google-workers-protest-1-2...