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People didn't used to be like this. There was more tolerance for people you didn't agree with.

Daishiman 4y ago
Not really. Lived in the 90s in the US, people were even more tight-lipped because dissenting opinions on a lot of things were not even mentioned in the first place.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  Remember when Obama had to stress that he didn't want to allow gay people to get married so he could be elected in 2008?
  - ifsothen 4y ago
dragontamer 4y ago
What? When? The vi vs emacs flamewars were intense. I've seen literal death threats thrown out online over which assembly language to use, or PS2 vs XBox flamewars. Trolls, even back in the day, would try to trick people into clicking pornography on children video game forums. People have always been assholes online. ------ Offline, casual racism and stereotypes rule. Which is why people focus so much on dress and mannerisms, so that your first impression is "correct", and you have a reasonable social interaction. How you talk, or stutter, or accents, or skin color, etc. etc. It matters more often than not. It "shouldn't", but it does. These things seep into the online discussion space.
ok_dad 4y ago
Here’s a list of people who probably disagree: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lynching_victims_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lynching_victims_in_... There might have been more tolerance for racism and sexism and stuff, but not more tolerance for everyone.
cafard 4y ago
In America the majority raises very formidable barriers to the liberty of opinion: within these barriers an author may write whatever he pleases, but he will repent it if he ever step beyond them. Not that he is exposed to the terrors of an auto-da-fe, but he is tormented by the slights and persecutions of daily obloquy. His political career is closed forever, since he has offended the only authority which is able to promote his success. Every sort of compensation, even that of celebrity, is refused to him. Before he published his opinions he imagined that he held them in common with many others; but no sooner has he declared them openly than he is loudly censured by his overbearing opponents, whilst those who think without having the courage to speak, like him, abandon him in silence. He yields at length, oppressed by the daily efforts he has been making, and he subsides into silence, as if he was tormented by remorse for having spoken the truth. -- De Tocqueville, Democracy in America, published in 1835.

Not really. Lived in the 90s in the US, people were even more tight-lipped because dissenting opinions on a lot of things were not even mentioned in the first place.

mrguyorama 4y ago
Remember when Obama had to stress that he didn't want to allow gay people to get married so he could be elected in 2008?
- ifsothen 4y ago

dragontamer 4y ago

What? When? The vi vs emacs flamewars were intense. I've seen literal death threats thrown out online over which assembly language to use, or PS2 vs XBox flamewars. Trolls, even back in the day, would try to trick people into clicking pornography on children video game forums. People have always been assholes online. ------ Offline, casual racism and stereotypes rule. Which is why people focus so much on dress and mannerisms, so that your first impression is "correct", and you have a reasonable social interaction. How you talk, or stutter, or accents, or skin color, etc. etc. It matters more often than not. It "shouldn't", but it does. These things seep into the online discussion space.

ok_dad 4y ago

Here’s a list of people who probably disagree: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lynching_victims_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lynching_victims_in_... There might have been more tolerance for racism and sexism and stuff, but not more tolerance for everyone.

cafard 4y ago

In America the majority raises very formidable barriers to the liberty of opinion: within these barriers an author may write whatever he pleases, but he will repent it if he ever step beyond them. Not that he is exposed to the terrors of an auto-da-fe, but he is tormented by the slights and persecutions of daily obloquy. His political career is closed forever, since he has offended the only authority which is able to promote his success. Every sort of compensation, even that of celebrity, is refused to him. Before he published his opinions he imagined that he held them in common with many others; but no sooner has he declared them openly than he is loudly censured by his overbearing opponents, whilst those who think without having the courage to speak, like him, abandon him in silence. He yields at length, oppressed by the daily efforts he has been making, and he subsides into silence, as if he was tormented by remorse for having spoken the truth. -- De Tocqueville, Democracy in America, published in 1835.