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I live in the UK but have family in Australia - I can imagine there’s no privacy there either but I was wondering what the law is? In the UK it’s one month of

by nailer 4y ago

I live in the UK but have family in Australia - I can imagine there’s no privacy there either but I was wondering what the law is? In the UK it’s one month of all our private communications thanks to the Investigatory Powers Act 2016. What is it in Australia?

96llort 4y ago
- jodrellblank 4y ago
  https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citizenship https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citi...
  - 96llort 4y ago
- nailer 4y ago
  If you're comparing to the US: the US has the Fourth Amendment, and your government ignores that too.
  - adventured 4y ago
    You're pretending it doesn't exist at all, when in fact the Fourth Amendment provides enormous, common protection - which some government agents rarely violate (leading you to claim the "government" ignores it entirely, which is false). The Fouth Amendment is not only still fully valid, it continues to hold up extraordinarily well when it comes to protecting you in a court of law.
    - nailer 4y ago
      > which some government agents rarely violate We've seen from the Snowden revelations that ignoring the fourth amendment is widespread.
Yeahsureok 4y ago
2 years data retention
- nailer 4y ago
  > The Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 requires telecommunications companies to retain a particular set of telecommunications data for at least 2 years. That looks like metadata (see https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/nat-security/files/dataset.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/nat-security/files/dataset.pd..., PDF warning). Which is still private, but doesn't include your private calls and messages. How long do they keep private calls and messages?
  - shakna 4y ago
    > How long do they keep private calls and messages? 7-10 years, in practice. 2 years, in requirement. [0] [0] https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/DataRetention https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Depart...
    - nailer 4y ago
      Hrm that link doesn't seem to be relevant: > … is not defined in the TIA Act but is generally understood to refer to information about a communication that is not the content or substance of a communication. I'm asking asking about content.
      - shakna 4y ago
        > The Act requires CSPs to preserve stored communications at the request of certain domestic agencies, or the Australian Federal Police acting on behalf of certain foreign countries, in advance of a warrant to access the information being issued. > ... > There are two types of preservation notices—domestic (‘which cover stored communications that might relate either to a contravention of certain Australian laws or to security’) and foreign (‘which cover stored communications that might relate to a contravention of certain foreign laws’). > In turn, there are two types of domestic preservation notices—historic (‘which cover stored communications held by the carrier on a particular day’) and ongoing (‘which cover stored communications held by the carrier in a particular 30-day period’). > A foreign preservation notice only covers stored communications held by the carrier on a particular day. The Ombudsman and the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security will have oversight in relation to preservation notices.

by nailer 4y ago

96llort 4y ago

jodrellblank 4y ago
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citizenship https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citi...
- 96llort 4y ago
nailer 4y ago
If you're comparing to the US: the US has the Fourth Amendment, and your government ignores that too.
- adventured 4y ago
  You're pretending it doesn't exist at all, when in fact the Fourth Amendment provides enormous, common protection - which some government agents rarely violate (leading you to claim the "government" ignores it entirely, which is false). The Fouth Amendment is not only still fully valid, it continues to hold up extraordinarily well when it comes to protecting you in a court of law.
  - nailer 4y ago
    > which some government agents rarely violate We've seen from the Snowden revelations that ignoring the fourth amendment is widespread.

Yeahsureok 4y ago

2 years data retention

nailer 4y ago
> The Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 requires telecommunications companies to retain a particular set of telecommunications data for at least 2 years. That looks like metadata (see https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/nat-security/files/dataset.pdf https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/nat-security/files/dataset.pd..., PDF warning). Which is still private, but doesn't include your private calls and messages. How long do they keep private calls and messages?
- shakna 4y ago
  > How long do they keep private calls and messages? 7-10 years, in practice. 2 years, in requirement. [0] [0] https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/DataRetention https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Depart...
  - nailer 4y ago
    Hrm that link doesn't seem to be relevant: > … is not defined in the TIA Act but is generally understood to refer to information about a communication that is not the content or substance of a communication. I'm asking asking about content.
    - shakna 4y ago
      > The Act requires CSPs to preserve stored communications at the request of certain domestic agencies, or the Australian Federal Police acting on behalf of certain foreign countries, in advance of a warrant to access the information being issued. > ... > There are two types of preservation notices—domestic (‘which cover stored communications that might relate either to a contravention of certain Australian laws or to security’) and foreign (‘which cover stored communications that might relate to a contravention of certain foreign laws’). > In turn, there are two types of domestic preservation notices—historic (‘which cover stored communications held by the carrier on a particular day’) and ongoing (‘which cover stored communications held by the carrier in a particular 30-day period’). > A foreign preservation notice only covers stored communications held by the carrier on a particular day. The Ombudsman and the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security will have oversight in relation to preservation notices.