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The school put out a statement that implied that this wasn't an isolated incident. Why is a school even getting involved, even if some business in town was bei

by causi 4y ago

The school put out a statement that implied that this wasn't an isolated incident. Why is a school even getting involved, even if some business in town was being racist? Schools are for educating students and keeping them safe on campus.

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voisin 4y ago
It is shocking how schools begin to act like quasi governments, trying to regulate things off campus only because people who happen to be individuals are involved. I’ve lived in a number of college towns and seen it regularly.
neither_color 4y ago
Instead, the school proposed a deal where, in the future, if a student were caught shoplifting, we’d call the dean instead of the police. School campuses are like fiefdoms these days. A lot of schools have their own campus police and handle cases between students internally, but asking local townsfolk to use their own arbiters instead of the police is really something else. Tangentially related I helped a friend with move-in day recently and they told me international students had been there for 2 weeks already... quarantining... in a city where all mask mandates ended months ago. It all seems so performative.
anoonmoose 4y ago
I find the other two responses to your question bizarre considering that the answer is in the paragraph directly above the line you quoted: > A week after the incident, the school canceled all of our standing orders. It's not a random business in town, it's a business they do business with. Seems reasonable to me that the racism of my chosen business partners would be relevant to my business.
- pookha 4y ago
  Does the school have some kind of CSI racism squad? Keeping tabs on every micro aggression for every business partner? Why would ANYONE do business with people like this?
jccalhoun 4y ago
The idea of "in loco parentis" has a long history in higher education and the pendulum has swung from strict limits on student conduct to minimal limits. https://www.chronicle.com/article/why-colleges-are-keeping-a-closer-eye-on-their-students-lives https://www.chronicle.com/article/why-colleges-are-keeping-a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_loco_parentis#Higher_education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_loco_parentis#Higher_educat...
tptacek 4y ago
The school had no business being involved, and beyond no business suggesting that Gibsons report crimes to the school instead of the police. There isn't much controversy here; the school is going to lose $36MM owing to their poor judgement.
dekhn 4y ago
because at schools like this the deans are terrified of not placating the mob.

by causi 4y ago

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voisin 4y ago

It is shocking how schools begin to act like quasi governments, trying to regulate things off campus only because people who happen to be individuals are involved. I’ve lived in a number of college towns and seen it regularly.

neither_color 4y ago

Instead, the school proposed a deal where, in the future, if a student were caught shoplifting, we’d call the dean instead of the police. School campuses are like fiefdoms these days. A lot of schools have their own campus police and handle cases between students internally, but asking local townsfolk to use their own arbiters instead of the police is really something else. Tangentially related I helped a friend with move-in day recently and they told me international students had been there for 2 weeks already... quarantining... in a city where all mask mandates ended months ago. It all seems so performative.

anoonmoose 4y ago

I find the other two responses to your question bizarre considering that the answer is in the paragraph directly above the line you quoted: > A week after the incident, the school canceled all of our standing orders. It's not a random business in town, it's a business they do business with. Seems reasonable to me that the racism of my chosen business partners would be relevant to my business.

pookha 4y ago
Does the school have some kind of CSI racism squad? Keeping tabs on every micro aggression for every business partner? Why would ANYONE do business with people like this?

jccalhoun 4y ago

The idea of "in loco parentis" has a long history in higher education and the pendulum has swung from strict limits on student conduct to minimal limits. https://www.chronicle.com/article/why-colleges-are-keeping-a-closer-eye-on-their-students-lives https://www.chronicle.com/article/why-colleges-are-keeping-a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_loco_parentis#Higher_education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_loco_parentis#Higher_educat...

tptacek 4y ago

The school had no business being involved, and beyond no business suggesting that Gibsons report crimes to the school instead of the police. There isn't much controversy here; the school is going to lose $36MM owing to their poor judgement.

dekhn 4y ago

because at schools like this the deans are terrified of not placating the mob.