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I can't stress how much better Kagi is than Google, I'm a paying user. No more scrolling through tons of ads. Filtering by time and language is great, no more G

I can't stress how much better Kagi is than Google, I'm a paying user. No more scrolling through tons of ads. Filtering by time and language is great, no more GitHub and Stackoverflow clones in the result. Thank you, I actually haven't realized how small Kagi still is, given how polished that product already is.

ohCh6zos 4y ago
I'm in the same boat as you. The results and polish justifies my monthly payment to them. Given how impressed I am with Kagi search maybe it is time to check out Orion.
Semaphor 4y ago
Eh, ads are not something one has to put up with unless one chooses so, and filtering by language worked well for me with DDG (can’t remember about google, it’s been so long). I do enjoy their actually unique features, though ;)
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  By ads I believe the parent means junk domains "top10cameras2022.com" and not intentional ads.
  - tjungblut 4y ago
    Actually, I meant both. The junk domain part is also easily solved in Kagi with Website ranking adjustment and blocking.
- duiker101 4y ago
  Some searches with Google have become absolutely unusable, a flood of paywalled quora and random blogs that blabber without answers just to try and sell you a solution to a problem you don't actually have. Kagi allows you to remove all that trash and actually find what you need.
samstave 4y ago
Does it block pinterest by default? ;-) -- Aside - why dont we have a keyboard key to switch an entire line from ALL CAPS to all caps or to All Caps... (This would be a great key) - Is there a way something like Kagi can also search google and ddg and ad results to a search then rank the relevant ones based on which ones users click in the results in addition to whatever/wherever Kagi indexes from? (or is that how it works - because the goog crawler is massive and hard to replicate is it not?) Serious questions, as I do not know...
- dpkirchner 4y ago
  I think that sort of auto-ranking would require more tracking than they want to do.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > Is there a way something like Kagi can also search google and ddg and ad results to a search then rank the relevant ones based on which ones users click in the results in addition to whatever/wherever Kagi indexes from? (or is that how it works - because the goog crawler is massive and hard to replicate is it not?) They don’t connect any searches/clicks to user accounts. But you can rank sites yourself like this: https://i.imgur.com/Po7mG7Q.png https://i.imgur.com/Po7mG7Q.png
- malikNF 4y ago
  > Does it block pinterest by default? ;-) One of the first things I tried with them. I have the option to down-rank websites I don't like. I can block or lower their ranking.
  - Cyberdog 4y ago
    I saw that in the video on the front page. It looks like a killer feature. I use DDG currently and am starting to get annoyed how Wikipedia is almost always the top result for any broad term. I'm not sure it's a $10/mo killer feature, though.
- Melatonic 4y ago
  I believe it does search using multiple other engines (google, DDG, Bing?) and lots of other ways as well (archive.org searches) but for ranking you have to choose to do that yourself
malikNF 4y ago
Agreed. Hated what g! was becoming, so I started using ddg, liked it at first but had to often modify my queries with a g! but I still used it, the experiance was't great, but it somehow worked, then the controversies around ddg started to come out. At the end of the day you gotta keep the lights on, if your users are not your customers then someone else is going to have to help you pay the bills. Used kagi since it was recommended here on hn. Used it for a week(-ish) and instantly fell in love with it, the lenses feature, the ability to rank search results meant I could block out websites I hated seeing on my search results and boosting the ones I cared about. Now I am a paying customer. Oh yeh, one more thing, for the past few months I don't remember a single instance of me modifying my queries with !g. Now I promote them every chance I get, I even got called a paid shill on reddit a few weeks back :D .
- plugin-baby 4y ago
  What are the DDG controversies?
  - lalopalota 4y ago
    Not a controversy, but my gripe with ddg is whatever they do when I click on a result that puts the title and icon of the target page in my history, but when I click on the link in history it takes me to the ddg search results page, not the actual page.
    - prh8 4y ago
      This drives me crazy but I thought it was just my computer
    - avery42 4y ago
      I don't have this issue, but maybe changing some of the privacy settings might help? https://duckduckgo.com/settings#privacy https://duckduckgo.com/settings#privacy
  - malikNF 4y ago
    The CEO and founder of ddg announced on twitter that they will start moderating content on the Russian invasion of Ukraine [1]. While I agree disinformation is a problem, I want my search engine to treat my like an adult, just do your job of retrieving the information I asked for and let me decide what is mis-information and what is not. It starts with a cause we all can get behind, sometimes its "think of the children", another time it's regulating information from people supporting orcs, and who knows, how do I know things I care about might get suppressed in the future? Stop the nonsese, let me be the judge of what I consume. The other instance I remember was the whole ms tracking situation[2], if your whole selling point is "Privacy simplified" then do just that without all the nonsese. There were a few others (#duckduckgone) before I stopped using them. [1]https://twitter.com/yegg/status/1501716484761997318 https://twitter.com/yegg/status/1501716484761997318 [2]https://twitter.com/thezedwards/status/1528808759027331072 https://twitter.com/thezedwards/status/1528808759027331072
Quenhus 4y ago
For those still on Google or DDG, here is my uBlock filter with hundreds of GitHub/StackOverflow copycats: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter It blocks copycats and hide them from multiple search engines. You may also use the list with uBlacklist.

ohCh6zos 4y ago

I'm in the same boat as you. The results and polish justifies my monthly payment to them. Given how impressed I am with Kagi search maybe it is time to check out Orion.

Semaphor 4y ago

Eh, ads are not something one has to put up with unless one chooses so, and filtering by language worked well for me with DDG (can’t remember about google, it’s been so long). I do enjoy their actually unique features, though ;)

vorpalhex 4y ago
By ads I believe the parent means junk domains "top10cameras2022.com" and not intentional ads.
- tjungblut 4y ago
  Actually, I meant both. The junk domain part is also easily solved in Kagi with Website ranking adjustment and blocking.
duiker101 4y ago
Some searches with Google have become absolutely unusable, a flood of paywalled quora and random blogs that blabber without answers just to try and sell you a solution to a problem you don't actually have. Kagi allows you to remove all that trash and actually find what you need.

samstave 4y ago

Does it block pinterest by default? ;-) -- Aside - why dont we have a keyboard key to switch an entire line from ALL CAPS to all caps or to All Caps... (This would be a great key) - Is there a way something like Kagi can also search google and ddg and ad results to a search then rank the relevant ones based on which ones users click in the results in addition to whatever/wherever Kagi indexes from? (or is that how it works - because the goog crawler is massive and hard to replicate is it not?) Serious questions, as I do not know...

dpkirchner 4y ago
I think that sort of auto-ranking would require more tracking than they want to do.
Semaphor 4y ago
> Is there a way something like Kagi can also search google and ddg and ad results to a search then rank the relevant ones based on which ones users click in the results in addition to whatever/wherever Kagi indexes from? (or is that how it works - because the goog crawler is massive and hard to replicate is it not?) They don’t connect any searches/clicks to user accounts. But you can rank sites yourself like this: https://i.imgur.com/Po7mG7Q.png https://i.imgur.com/Po7mG7Q.png
malikNF 4y ago
> Does it block pinterest by default? ;-) One of the first things I tried with them. I have the option to down-rank websites I don't like. I can block or lower their ranking.
- Cyberdog 4y ago
  I saw that in the video on the front page. It looks like a killer feature. I use DDG currently and am starting to get annoyed how Wikipedia is almost always the top result for any broad term. I'm not sure it's a $10/mo killer feature, though.
Melatonic 4y ago
I believe it does search using multiple other engines (google, DDG, Bing?) and lots of other ways as well (archive.org searches) but for ranking you have to choose to do that yourself

malikNF 4y ago

Agreed. Hated what g! was becoming, so I started using ddg, liked it at first but had to often modify my queries with a g! but I still used it, the experiance was't great, but it somehow worked, then the controversies around ddg started to come out. At the end of the day you gotta keep the lights on, if your users are not your customers then someone else is going to have to help you pay the bills. Used kagi since it was recommended here on hn. Used it for a week(-ish) and instantly fell in love with it, the lenses feature, the ability to rank search results meant I could block out websites I hated seeing on my search results and boosting the ones I cared about. Now I am a paying customer. Oh yeh, one more thing, for the past few months I don't remember a single instance of me modifying my queries with !g. Now I promote them every chance I get, I even got called a paid shill on reddit a few weeks back :D .

plugin-baby 4y ago
What are the DDG controversies?
- lalopalota 4y ago
  Not a controversy, but my gripe with ddg is whatever they do when I click on a result that puts the title and icon of the target page in my history, but when I click on the link in history it takes me to the ddg search results page, not the actual page.
  - prh8 4y ago
    This drives me crazy but I thought it was just my computer
  - avery42 4y ago
    I don't have this issue, but maybe changing some of the privacy settings might help? https://duckduckgo.com/settings#privacy https://duckduckgo.com/settings#privacy
- malikNF 4y ago
  The CEO and founder of ddg announced on twitter that they will start moderating content on the Russian invasion of Ukraine [1]. While I agree disinformation is a problem, I want my search engine to treat my like an adult, just do your job of retrieving the information I asked for and let me decide what is mis-information and what is not. It starts with a cause we all can get behind, sometimes its "think of the children", another time it's regulating information from people supporting orcs, and who knows, how do I know things I care about might get suppressed in the future? Stop the nonsese, let me be the judge of what I consume. The other instance I remember was the whole ms tracking situation[2], if your whole selling point is "Privacy simplified" then do just that without all the nonsese. There were a few others (#duckduckgone) before I stopped using them. [1]https://twitter.com/yegg/status/1501716484761997318 https://twitter.com/yegg/status/1501716484761997318 [2]https://twitter.com/thezedwards/status/1528808759027331072 https://twitter.com/thezedwards/status/1528808759027331072

Quenhus 4y ago

For those still on Google or DDG, here is my uBlock filter with hundreds of GitHub/StackOverflow copycats: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter It blocks copycats and hide them from multiple search engines. You may also use the list with uBlacklist.