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Lock your phone away in the hotel safe, put it on airplane mode, or just leave it in your bag. Connectivity is going to be available anywhere, but you still con

Lock your phone away in the hotel safe, put it on airplane mode, or just leave it in your bag. Connectivity is going to be available anywhere, but you still control your own utilization of it.

drstewart 4y ago
While partially true, that won't be the case for most people. And that can change your experience in a way you can't control (think of people at a concert filming the entire thing on their phone, or even everyone sitting around a dinner table on their phones).
- bawolff 4y ago
  > or even everyone sitting around a dinner table on their phones I mean, you can find people who share your convictions.
  - drstewart 4y ago
    I mean, you can live in reality where no one is going to dump friends who use phones
    - bawolff 4y ago
      Sure, but people should either decide to be ok with their friends using phones or get friends who also dont use phones. The middle ground of having friends who use phones but hating them for it is stupid.
  - GrinningFool 4y ago
    Or you can just ask that folks agree to keep their phones away for the duration. There may be less pushback than you expect.
xwdv 4y ago
It’s not the same. Similar to how you can’t just stay off social media to avoid the influence of social media. The entire world has changed, and people behave differently because they are on social media. And their behavior affects you and the ambiance of places you go to.
- danpalmer 4y ago
  Plus so many places just expect you to have a phone. For tickets and access to places, to view a menu and order in a restaurant, to access maps and information. My last friend who still uses a "dumb" phone with no internet has started to struggle over the last few years as more places just require a smartphone. He's increasingly excluded from services.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    Hm, I'm doubtful. I have a smartphone, but I use it for text messaging, calls, navigation, and not much else. Tickets I buy online and print. I've never been to a restaurant that required a phone to see the menu or order, and I'd likely walk out if they did. The maps/navigation is convenient, but if push came to shove I'd print the directions like I used to do before phone navigation was a thing.
    - danpalmer 4y ago
      > Tickets I buy online and print I do not own a printer (30 years old), and neither do any of my siblings. If I want to print something I'd have to do it at work but don't know how to make the work printers work (despite being a software engineer at a company with a "good" printer setup). I travel internationally and don't print anything for that anymore. > I've never been to a restaurant that required a phone to see the menu I've never been to a place with a web menu and tried to get a physical menu. > if push came to shove I'd print the directions That's true if you know where you're going ahead of time, but if you're out and decide you now need directions to a coffee shop, ATM, public toilet, pharmacy, etc, you often need to look them up. You can ask for directions, but only if you speak the language, can find someone who knows, etc. I have a vague bad feeling about all of this change, but I can't really justify it. These are the ways things are going and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing in general, although there are negatives to it.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
you are missing the point - its not about me throwing my phone away, its about other people knowing that contacting me is physically impossible, and not expecting me to even have a phobe
- kube-system 4y ago
  Setting boundaries is a healthy skill to exercise, but if you need an excuse you could try hiking or camping? There are still plenty of places on land without cell coverage.
  - kevmo314 4y ago
    Coming soon: the national parks service partners with starlink to offer yellowstone internet service.
    - kortilla 4y ago
      That already works. You just bring your dish in there.
  - bryanlarsen 4y ago
    Not for long: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-coverage-above-and-beyond-with-spacex https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-cove...
  - ecpottinger 4y ago
    And if you must have the phone in case you need to call for help, take the battery out or turn it completely off so they can't call you.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
  Tell them you're going on vacation and won't have phone coverage. Then switch your phone off.
- jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
assttoasstmgr 4y ago
Remember the olden days, when if you wanted to take a picture you'd use a camera not a telephone?
- deleted 4y ago
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- LtWorf 4y ago
  Nothing prevents you from doing that now.
april_22 4y ago
Many mountain regions with beautiful hiking paths will remain disconnected from internet access for quite some time. So if you are fit enough, I strongly suggest to hike. You and everyone you are hiking with, will have no option to check mails or slack. It is also a great way to connect and spend time with family and friends. https://www.alaska.org/tours https://www.alaska.org/tours https://you.com/search?q=alaska+hiking+trails https://you.com/search?q=alaska+hiking+trails
- nordsieck 4y ago
  > Many mountain regions with beautiful hiking paths will remain disconnected from internet access for quite some time. SpaceX also just partnered with TMobile to bring direct-to-phone satellite internet. It'll probably take a while to happen, and the announced specs are pretty limited, but it's basically going to be everywhere.
- ghaff 4y ago
  Certainly there are places without Internet access. That said, as someone who leads group hikes, I'm not sure I could in good conscience advise people, in general, to just leave their phones at home when they go hiking if they want to get off the grid. And, if I was regularly in remote places with no cell phone reception these days, I'd probably think something like a Garmin InReach was probably a good idea.

Lock your phone away in the hotel safe, put it on airplane mode, or just leave it in your bag. Connectivity is going to be available anywhere, but you still control your own utilization of it.

drstewart 4y ago

While partially true, that won't be the case for most people. And that can change your experience in a way you can't control (think of people at a concert filming the entire thing on their phone, or even everyone sitting around a dinner table on their phones).

bawolff 4y ago
> or even everyone sitting around a dinner table on their phones I mean, you can find people who share your convictions.
- drstewart 4y ago
  I mean, you can live in reality where no one is going to dump friends who use phones
  - bawolff 4y ago
    Sure, but people should either decide to be ok with their friends using phones or get friends who also dont use phones. The middle ground of having friends who use phones but hating them for it is stupid.
- GrinningFool 4y ago
  Or you can just ask that folks agree to keep their phones away for the duration. There may be less pushback than you expect.

xwdv 4y ago

It’s not the same. Similar to how you can’t just stay off social media to avoid the influence of social media. The entire world has changed, and people behave differently because they are on social media. And their behavior affects you and the ambiance of places you go to.

danpalmer 4y ago
Plus so many places just expect you to have a phone. For tickets and access to places, to view a menu and order in a restaurant, to access maps and information. My last friend who still uses a "dumb" phone with no internet has started to struggle over the last few years as more places just require a smartphone. He's increasingly excluded from services.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Hm, I'm doubtful. I have a smartphone, but I use it for text messaging, calls, navigation, and not much else. Tickets I buy online and print. I've never been to a restaurant that required a phone to see the menu or order, and I'd likely walk out if they did. The maps/navigation is convenient, but if push came to shove I'd print the directions like I used to do before phone navigation was a thing.
  - danpalmer 4y ago
    > Tickets I buy online and print I do not own a printer (30 years old), and neither do any of my siblings. If I want to print something I'd have to do it at work but don't know how to make the work printers work (despite being a software engineer at a company with a "good" printer setup). I travel internationally and don't print anything for that anymore. > I've never been to a restaurant that required a phone to see the menu I've never been to a place with a web menu and tried to get a physical menu. > if push came to shove I'd print the directions That's true if you know where you're going ahead of time, but if you're out and decide you now need directions to a coffee shop, ATM, public toilet, pharmacy, etc, you often need to look them up. You can ask for directions, but only if you speak the language, can find someone who knows, etc. I have a vague bad feeling about all of this change, but I can't really justify it. These are the ways things are going and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing in general, although there are negatives to it.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

you are missing the point - its not about me throwing my phone away, its about other people knowing that contacting me is physically impossible, and not expecting me to even have a phobe

kube-system 4y ago
Setting boundaries is a healthy skill to exercise, but if you need an excuse you could try hiking or camping? There are still plenty of places on land without cell coverage.
- kevmo314 4y ago
  Coming soon: the national parks service partners with starlink to offer yellowstone internet service.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    That already works. You just bring your dish in there.
- bryanlarsen 4y ago
  Not for long: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-coverage-above-and-beyond-with-spacex https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-cove...
- ecpottinger 4y ago
  And if you must have the phone in case you need to call for help, take the battery out or turn it completely off so they can't call you.
throwawaylinux 4y ago
Tell them you're going on vacation and won't have phone coverage. Then switch your phone off.
jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago

assttoasstmgr 4y ago

Remember the olden days, when if you wanted to take a picture you'd use a camera not a telephone?

deleted 4y ago
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LtWorf 4y ago
Nothing prevents you from doing that now.

april_22 4y ago

Many mountain regions with beautiful hiking paths will remain disconnected from internet access for quite some time. So if you are fit enough, I strongly suggest to hike. You and everyone you are hiking with, will have no option to check mails or slack. It is also a great way to connect and spend time with family and friends. https://www.alaska.org/tours https://www.alaska.org/tours https://you.com/search?q=alaska+hiking+trails https://you.com/search?q=alaska+hiking+trails

nordsieck 4y ago
> Many mountain regions with beautiful hiking paths will remain disconnected from internet access for quite some time. SpaceX also just partnered with TMobile to bring direct-to-phone satellite internet. It'll probably take a while to happen, and the announced specs are pretty limited, but it's basically going to be everywhere.
ghaff 4y ago
Certainly there are places without Internet access. That said, as someone who leads group hikes, I'm not sure I could in good conscience advise people, in general, to just leave their phones at home when they go hiking if they want to get off the grid. And, if I was regularly in remote places with no cell phone reception these days, I'd probably think something like a Garmin InReach was probably a good idea.